--- JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: After all, you have> previously defined the > Democrats on this List as being the Party that > favored *every*> big-government program over the past 100-or-so years> over Republican> opposition. That is an awful lot of history to> jujitsu.
A typical outright and deliberate lie. What I did do is list MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE TWENTIETH CENTURY. Excluding Teddy Roosevelt, NONE of them have unambiguous roots in the GOP... although I do admire Eisenhower and credit him with helping Truman and Marshall to achieve many miracles, including calm containment of the USSR. What you utterly and blitheringly ignore is that many of those accomplishments were REDUCTION of big government. In fact, EVERY major deregulation except energy and the S&L industry, was pushed by the democrats... and THOSE two deregulations were actually klepto raids. I'll be even more fair and allow that Welfare Reform was bipartisan between Clinton and a Gingrich Congress the very briefly had a moment of lucid sanity and willingness to negotiate pragmatically. But the utter hypocrisy of calling the democrats the party of Big Government when: Federal payrolls dropped under BC and skyrocketed under Bush. Ditto deficits Dito government secrecy. Ditoo... O hell. What's the point. If I finally do show that fantastic FACTS, John would only credit it all to delayed effects of REaganomics. > > 1) I somehow don't think that it is a winning > strategy for the Democrats to > argue that the nation aught to be preparing the > armed forces to take on > another major... mission. Moreover, such a debate > would inevitably turn > into a referendum on the merits of the Iraq War, and > the Republicans have > already won the last time that was tried. No, it was a referendum on BOTH Bill Clinton's wonderful Afghanistan plan (which W executed and kept his hands off) and the wretched Rumsfeld generalship. Just wait till enough generals retire and talk about that. > 3) There is no question that the biggest division in > Republican ranks right > now is the immigration issue. Again, the history > of the Democrats makes > this a difficult change to make. Crap again. The UNIVERSAL history is that dems better support the Border Patrol. It is a quirk of social thinking that keeps them from bragging. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l