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From: "JDG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <brin-l@mccmedia.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: Permission Slips


> At 09:14 PM 5/1/2005 -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
> ><quote 2>
> >Senator Kerry denounces American action when other countries don't
approve
> >as if the whole object of our foreign policy were to please a few
> >persistent critics. In fact, in the global war on terror, as in
Afghanistan
> >and Iraq, President Bush has brought many allies to our side. But as the
> >President has made very clear, there is a difference between leading a
> >coalition of many, and submitting to the objections of a few. George W.
> >Bush will never seek a permission slip to defend the American people.
> ><end quote 2>
> >
> <snip>
> >
> >The second reference did discuss seriously considering the views of
other
> >countries, although obliquely.  Kerry suggested we work more _with_
allies
> >to arrive at our objective.  Cheney called that "denouncing when other
> >countries don't approve".
>                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> O.k. Dan, call me crazy, but doesn't the word "approve" imply, well,
> "approval?"    And isn't that far more akin to "getting permission" than
to
> "serious consideration"?

But, he was referring to Kerry's position which was "serious consideration.
It is Cheney who indicated no difference between the two.

> >So, I think David might have been more accurate referring to Cheney
dissing
> >seriously considering the opinions of others than saying Bush had.
>
> I honestly don't see how "approval" gets translated into this.

That's not what happened.  Serious consideration was translated, by Cheney,
into approval.  I was referencing the original idea.

Dan M.


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