> Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Gautam Mukunda wrote:
 
> > What I would ask also is, has the anti-war
> movement no
> > sense of decency, using this poor woman as a prop
> in
> > its attempts to attack the President?  How do you
> >feel rallying to someone supported by David Duke
> > (http://www.davidduke.com/index_print.php?p=350) -
> it
> > seems to me that people willing to exploit a poor,
> > bereaved woman as she lashes out to assuage her
> >grief should be comfortable in his company.

<snip> 
 
> By this logic, you are on the side of the rednecks
> who decided to 
> "protest" Sheehan by destroying some of the crossces
> left near her vigil 
> point (vandalism is illegal, last time I checked),
> and clearly are on 
> the side of "hunters" who fire off *shotguns* in an
> attempt to 
> intimidate American citizens who have PEACEABLY
> ASSEMBLED to protest 
> something (in many parts of the US it's illegal do
> discharge a firearm 
> within 1/4 mile of a public right-of-way), *and* who
> have made it clear 
> they're not at all happy about their fellow citizens
> EXERCISING THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
<snip>

I'm more-or-less neutral on what CS is doing, although
as a citizen she has every right to state her opinions
publicly.  Both sides are 'exploiting' those who
support their point of view; at least that's how I see
it when tearful families are interviewed and state
that their son/daughter/spouse died in a just cause.

I still don't think this war was justifiable, but the
real problem now is the stunning incompetence with
which this administration has conducted the
post-phase-one campaign.  There is no Iraqi
constitution yet, and the three factions want to pull
the troika in quite different directions.  Civil war
is a distinct possibility, from what I have read, and
that will be a big US loss.  Of course, if they decide
that women have less rights than men, or that Iraqi
law should reflect fundamentalist Islam, the US also
loses.
Not to mention women and anybody other than wahabbi
Muslims.

And now the potential necessity of negotiating with
the Ba'athist (sp?) portion of the insurgents looms --
certainly a loss-of-face for the US, although anything
that reduces the carnage for Iraqi citizens should be
considered very seriously.

Debbi
Command Voice Please Maru


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