Betrand Russell (I'm fairly sure it was him) used to call himself "A Teacup Athiest". He said he couldn't prove, beyond any doubt, that there wasn't a pink teacup orbiting the sun, but he didn't think that meant that the likelihood of it existing was on equal footing with its not existing. I sometimes tell people I'm a tooth fairy agnostic (a phrase I stole, from Richard Dawkins I think). Basically, I can't prove to someone who really believes that the tooth fairy definitely doesn't exist. But it just doesn't seem very likely, does it? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Louis Mann<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion<mailto:brin-l@mccmedia.com> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 4:50 PM Subject: Religion kills
> "By atheists" and "in the name of > atheism" aren't the same thing. It's > about, as was mentioned a few posts back, ideology. When > beliefs get > in the way of reason. And in that sense, Stalinist Russia, > Nazi > Germany, Spain under the Inquisition, Maoist China, and the > Balkan > conflicts are all the same thing. It's ideology. > "Atheism" is not an ideology, it's just a > position of non-belief in > gods. The one problem is that a large proportion of > humanity seem to > be wired for religion, so if one decides they don't > believe in God, > there's some room for other dangerous nonsense to fill > the gap. In > Russia, that was Marx-Leninism and Lysenkoism, and very > similar in China. > Charlie. i sit corrected, "in the name of atheism". as a devout atheist i believe there ain't no gawd, but i can't prove it, so i take it on faith. i believe the universe is cyclical and the big bang occurs when all the galaxies in the universe are sucked into super black holes which are then sucked into a super duper black hole at the center of this universe, which then explodes it reaches critical mass, so that the process of expansion, contraction and the heat death of the universe starts all over, again. jon _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l<http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l> _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l