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From: Rceeberger rceeber...@comcast.net
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 17:29:35 -0500
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: DeLong on health insurance reform



>On 9/7/2009 4:06:38 PM, John Williams (jwilliams4...@gmail.com) wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:31 PM, David Hobby<hob...@newpaltz.edu> wrote:
>>> Your argument seemed to be:
>>> "Money I pay in taxes
> > is money I won't give to worthy charities." I didn't
> > buy the ARGUMENT, for obvious reasons. That was not
> > an attack on your views.
> 
>> It is not an argument, it is a statement of the truth.
> 

>So.....you admit you hate America.

I can't see how that follows. One can even support higher taxes and make
that statement; because money spent on X can't be spent on Y. I think
that's what opportunity costs is suppose to measure.

In general, I've come to the conclusion that John is not a troll; he just
has a _very_ different opinion from the average person on Brin-L.  He has
surprised me with some of his suggestions; he virtually quotes Rand and
then states something that she'd hate in the next paragraph. I find that
interesting...trying to understand the viewpoint from which both statements
could flow.  So, I think he is arguing in good faith....even when I really
really differ with him.  By my definition, a good faith arguement is one
that is actually held by the person.

For example, when I discussed relativity and QM with folks who believed
they found fatal flaws in these theories, they definately seemed to be
arguing in good faith.  The fact that they didn't see the logical
contradictions in their arguements didn't mean that they were trolling. 
(BTW John....this does not mean I'm throwing you in with crackpots, just
giving an example of a good faith arguement I know is wrong). 

Anyways, when we aren't arguing with John; not much is said around here any
more.  None of us has his talent for generating list traffic. :-) 

Dan M. 

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