I'm picking up Directive 51 from the NY Public Library in the next day or
two.

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Pat Mathews <mathew...@msn.com> wrote:

>  John Barnes' Directive 51 went it one better - ALL petroleum and
> petroleum products. It did devolve into the question of whether it was a
> centrally organized conspiracy, preferably from abroad, or a spontaneous
> movement; in fact, the entire US splits over that question, thanks to a
> disagreement in the administration on whose watch it happens. There is a
> sequel; not sure there is a third.
>
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> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:49:34 -0500
> Subject: Re: Power and civilization
> From: john...@gmail.com
> To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
>
> I'm reading John Varley's Slow Apocalypse. The premise is that all
> un-processed petroleum is destroyed by an act of bio-terrorism. In the
> middle of it right now, but so far it's scaring the spit out of me.
>
> john
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 5:26 PM, <medieva...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> **
>
> Twas in Last And First Men, by Olaf Stapledon, I think, where all future
> civilizations had their power based upon alcohol. Nothing stored from the
> past was left.
>
>
> In a message dated 11/29/2012 12:58:45 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,
> net_democr...@yahoo.com writes:
>
> The measure of a civilization could be said to be it's consumption of
> energy and how it uses resources.  Conspicuous v. sustainable...
>
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