In a message dated 7/8/2004 3:59:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I'm not claiming that this is a good thing. It's > better for the man in the pulpit to not be engaging in > sin. But public leaders _do_ sin. What would you > rather have? Ones who say that sin is sin and condenm > it - even if they themselves engage in it - or ones > who don't even seem to acknowledge sin at all, except, > of course, for the sin of hypocrisy (we call these > people Democrats :-) > A republican is someone who condemns sin despite repeating engaging in sin and never actually saying "Act as I say not as I do". Of course your characterization of democrats is an insult to many of us. Do you really think that democrats have no moral values? As long as you continue to demonize those who disagree with you there can be no real discussion. I will definitely vote for John-John. Do you think that entitles you to denegate my moral sense? My father was a life long democrat. He was the most moral man I know. He lived family values. You insult him and many other. > > I would suggest, in fact, that they cry of "hypocrisy" > in politics is most often used to discredit those who > express noble ideals by those who don't even > acknowledge the truth of those ideals, or who find > those truths to be uncomfortable. Noble ideas like what? How about the right of all americans to affordable health care? How about insuring that all children below the poverty level are given assistance instead of being required to wait because of federal funding cut backs. I could go on but I think you get the drift. One man's noble idea is another's fiscal irresponsibilty. The most noble idea of the current administration is that we are going to get ours and to quote our Vice President the rest of you can "f off" . By the way I thought Cheney's defense of act of crude incivility was that it "felt good". Maybe that is what Bill should have said when confronted with the Monica lies. Do you think that response would have been well received by the conservatives who think Dick's response was ok? Just asking if the new Republican credo is that you can do it if you feel good? Or does that only work if you are in power. T> > > > The central problem with modern culture is the extent > to which it has, in Pat Moynihan's wonderful phrase, > "defined deviancy down." When politicians - who do > have a moral influence even if it is one far eclipsed > by Hollywood and popular music - defend "family > values" they are often (not always, but often) doing > their small part to prevent that continual downgrading > of the deviancy threshold, and I think that's a good > and worthwhile thing. When it used only for poltical advantage by one side to incorrectly demonize the other side. When it used to exclude people who do not have the same chance for success in life or come from different cultures, then it is not a good thing. It is a hipocritcal thing especially when the proponents of family valuies make no real effort to live by these values themselves _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
