Crucial difference with the way the Americans organise Tournaments - You play consecutive games without a break, hence large squads are essential if you are to succeed in your 3rd or 4th game in a row. Adam
----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Retter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [BD] Tour 3 > Larger, fitter, better disciplined, teams will reduce the levels of fatigue > and risk of injury. > > EU(C)C and WU(C)C tournaments insists that teams have a minimum of 12 > players rostered for every game a team plays (though I'm unsure whether > they're supposed to be "fit to play", or just "rostered"!) > > Somewhere or other (maybe it was just the Layout Dreams tournament > invites/websites...), it used to be recommended that teams have at least 12 > healthy players to enter a Tour tournament. > > In a recent discussion at BritOpen with a US player, he expressed his shock > that teams were saying "We've already got 14 players, which is plenty". in > the US, "We've got 14" often translates to "find another 7 players!". Then > again, they play harder, and rarely do players play more than 2 points in a > row. > > Wayne > > --- > Wayne Retter > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Unwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Britdisc (E-mail) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 09 July 2003 17:09 > Subject: RE: [BD] Tour 3 > > > > >"there is also a point where the physical demand on the players can become > >dangerous" > > > >I reiterate my opinion expressed last year: that we play too much, and that > >2 games per day is a reasonable demand. > > > >I believe the tour should be structured so teams can play 2 high quality > >games per day, and no more. > > > >I am horified by the sheer number of injuries incurred by Ultimate players. > >Can we really say that none of these are caused by fatigue, brought on by > >excessive play? > > > >What do you think? > > > >Stig > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: 09 July 2003 10:02 > >To: brit disc > >Subject: Re: [BD] Tour 3 > > > > > >Is this for real? > > > >The Chevy/BPF game was between two very tired/injured teams that went to > >sudden death after Chevy made a seven point come back (just like they did > to > >win Tour 1). It may have looked like they 'couldn't be arsed', but believe > >me; both teams gave that game everything they had. Although we (BPF) didn't > >actually forfeit our last game, we probably should have done. > > > >Ultimate is unlike other sports in that you play a whole tournament over a > >weekend. The sport has grown to a point where teams in the Tour are now > >playing 6 hard games against teams of similar ability to themselves. > >Although this is excellent because of the increase in competitiveness, > there > >is also a point where the physical demand on the players can become > >dangerous. It would be ridiculous to penalize a team that decided it was > >unfit to play. Instead we have to accept that sometimes this happens, > that's > >just how this sport is. > > > >Jack > >Plastic Factory > > > > > >> > >> Yes, I'm ranting again. > >> > >> But first, thanks to Alex and everyone for a great tour. The organisation > >> was excellent, considering the late changes. First class pitches. I don't > >> mind travelling hundreds of miles for that sort of venue. > >> > >> Rant 1: > >> Are Chevy South going to refund some of the tournament fee paid by the > >teams > >> they couldn't be arsed to play? BAF and BPF(?) paid for six games, and > >> except because of injury or other unforeseen problems, they're entitled > to > >> them. Put the toys back in the pram boys, and have a word with > yourselves. > >> > >> Rant 2: > >> Are the GB Women now to be called the England women since they can't be > >> arsed to cross the border for tour 4? > >> > >> Rant 3: > >> Whilst we enjoyed the game against Paddy Murphy (lovely bunch of lads, > >> although the blonde triplets were confusing) it sets a pretty poor > >precedent > >> that Janitors were allowed to mess about with the seeding in this way. > You > >> surely can't do that sort of thing without asking all the other teams it > >> affects. It's reasonable to have a Captain's Agreement to change the > rules > >> of a game, but not the rules of a tournament. > >> > >> Right, is there anyone on britdisc I haven't been rude to yet? > >> > >> Benji > >> STD_Ultimate > >> > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger > >> http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> BritDisc mailing list > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> http://pootle.near.me.uk/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > >> Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp > >> > > > >__________________________________________________ > >BritDisc mailing list > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://pootle.near.me.uk/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > >Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp > >__________________________________________________ > >BritDisc mailing list > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://pootle.near.me.uk/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > >Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp > > > > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://pootle.near.me.uk/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp -------------------------------------------------------- The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, or in the case of an incorrectly addressed e-mail message, the intended recipient. 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