On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 06:32:02PM +0200, Mikkel Bjergs? wrote:
> Det kan man skam sagtens. Du kan bruge en del øl - bl.a. alle engelske
> med påskriften 'bottle conditioned'. 

Not all of them! Some breweries love their filters so much that they
filter the beer, and then add a completely different yeast for bottle
conditioning. If you try to culture from those beers, you get their
conditioning yeast, and not the yeast the beer was fermented with.
Those conditioning yeasts are chosen for string flocculation (they
settle down to the bottom into a solid layer, instead of floating in the
beer, making it less clear), and storage stability. Not for good taste!


> Rent fysisk gør du således: Lav en lille urt - min bedste erfaring er
> ved at koge ca. 150gram lys tør malt ekstrakt i 1 liter vand i 20 min.
> Du kan evt. koge lidt humle med.

Good idea to add some hops in the boil - they have seriously good
antibacterial properties, and can fight off some of the inevitable
infections that float in the air...

> Og så til Brøckhouse. Jeg har med held brugt IPA til at lave
> gærstartere med, men det skal man ikke gøre mere. Den er lige blevet
> undersøgt og der er blevet konstateret fremmede små bæster i gæren.
> Derfor - hold dig væk fra den indtil der bliver gjort noget ved det.

It seems that Bröckhouse keeps having some problems with their yeasts.
Last year their weissbier was really good, when you got a good one, and
pretty bad if you did not.

I suppose every brewery has to go through a stage where many beers get
infected. Even some of us home brewers have had a unlucky streak of many
beers going bad... 


> Du kan evt bruge Safale-04 fra DCL gær. Jeg har opnået meget ensartet
> smag som med Wyeast 1968 som brøckhouse IPA jo bruger.

Here you have a choice between taking the easy way out with the dry
yeast, doing the right thing by using the original 1968, or going all
the way and trying to cultivate a yeast out of a bottle. If there is
any hope of the dry yeast getting close enough, I would not look
further. Certainly not the first 3-5 times I tried to make exactly that
beer!


-H

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Heikki Levanto   "In Murphy We Turst"     heikki (at) lsd (dot) dk



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