[budaya_tionghua] Re: Manusia Berhak Menjadi Ateis Sekalipun=> Yongde

[ardian_c]

rasanya gak paslah, yg bener itu mrk mengadopsi ajaran2 non KHC tapi
gak ganti nama jadi Samkaw.

Jg gak tjoema org2 KHC aje, wong banyak non KHC jg yg adopsi ajaran
KHC or Dao kayak Baizhang, Huineng de el el.

Selain itu yg Tao jg ada yg adopsi ajaran KHC kayak Lu Xiujing, Wang
Chongyang de el el.

Yg bener2 ngusung SAMKAW itu oleh Lin ZhaoEn jaman Ming, doi diriin
satu aliran baru yg namanya SanYi Jiao.
Tapi yg doi usung jg beda ama samkaw di Indonesia or Asteng.

Seinget aye, aliran Sanyi jiao masih ada di Malaysia plus tempat
ibadahnya, kira2 ada 2000an pengikutnya.


--- In budaya_tionghua@yahoogroups.com, "andytanoko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> samkaw itu kalau tidak salah di daratan tiongkok disebut sebagai
> neo-confucianism. tokoh-tokoh neo-confucianism : 
> 
>     * Cheng Yi
>     * Lu Xiangshan aka Lu Jiuyuan (1139–1193)
>     * Ouyang Xiu (1007–1072)
>     * Shao Yong (1011–1077)
>     * Su Shi, aka Su Dongpo (1037–1101)
>     * Wang Yangming aka Wang Shouren
>     * Ye Shi (1150–1223)
>     * Zhang Sanfeng
>     * Zhang Zai
>     * Zhou Dunyi (1017–1073)
>     * Zhu Xi (1130–1200)
> 
> 
> Zhu Xi's formulation of the Neo-Confucian world view is as follows. He
> believed that the Tao (Chinese: &#36947;; pinyin: dào; literally
"way") of
> Tian (Chinese: &#22825;; pinyin: ti&#257;n; literally "heaven") is
expressed in
> principle or li (Chinese: &#29702;; pinyin: l&#464;), but that it is
sheathed in
> matter or qi (Chinese: &#27683;; pinyin: qì). In this, his system is
based
> on Buddhist systems of the time that divided things into principle
> (again, li), and shi (Chinese: &#20107;; pinyin: shì). In the
Neo-Confucian
> formulation, li in itself is pure and perfect, but with the addition
> of qi, base emotions and conflicts arise. Human nature is originally
> good, the Neo-Confucians argued (following Mencius), but not pure
> unless action is taken to purify it. The imperative is then to purify
> one's li. However, in contrast to Buddhists and Taoists,
> neo-Confucians did not believe in an external world unconnected with
> the world of matter. In addition, Neo-Confucians in general rejected
> the idea of reincarnation and the associated idea of karma.
> 
> Different Neo-Confucians had differing ideas for how to do so. Zhu Xi
> believed in gewu (Chinese: &#26684;&#29289;; pinyin: géwù), the
Investigation of
> Things, essentially an academic form of observational science, based
> on the idea that li lies within the world. Wang Yangming (Wang
> Shouren), probably the second most influential Neo-Confucian, came to
> another conclusion: namely, that if li is in all things, and li is in
> one's heart, there is no better place to seek than within oneself. His
> preferred method of doing so was jingzuo (Chinese: &#38748;&#22352;;
pinyin:
> jìngzuò), a practice that strongly resembles zazen or Chan (Zen)
> meditation. Wang Yangming developed the idea of innate knowing,
> arguing that every person knows from birth the difference between good
> and evil. 
> 
> samkaw alias tridharma sangat populer di tiongkok pada jaman dinasti
song.
> 
> 
> --- In budaya_tionghua@yahoogroups.com, "hartantodedy"
> <hartantodedy@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear All,
> > 
> > Siapa sih sebenernya pendiri Samkouw, kalau mendengar pernyataan,
> > Buddha sekedar dipuja rupangnya. Dan saya kenal penganut Konghucu
> > bilang Tao banyak tahayulnya. Kemungkinan pendirinya lebih berbobot
> > ke Tao.
> > 
> > Salam,
> > Dedy
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In budaya_tionghua@yahoogroups.com, "danarhadi2000"
> > <danarhadi2000@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Setahu saya, wah ini mohon koreksi para suhu, kepercayaan yang
> > > dinamakan Samkouw itu ada, dan bernama TriDharma. Tri, artinya
> > tiga.
> > > Apakah ada aliran Konghucu yang berdiri sendiri, diluar TriDharma?
> > >
> > > Satu dari tiga itu adalah Buddha, yang sekedar dipuja rupangnya,
> > yang
> > > dihadirkan disamping tokoh tokoh yang diagungkan, seperti Guangong,
> > > Guanyin, Dewa Bumi, dsb. Namun, bukan Buddha sebagai sebuah ajaran
> > > yang "komplit" misalnya Mahayana Tionghoa dengan babaran Dharmanya
> > > (konsep Triratna, Jalan kemuliaan dsb). Misalnya Surga Sukhawati,
> > > Tantrayana, dsb. Penganutnya juga kebanyakan saudara saudara
> > > Tionghoa, namun tidak mengaku sebagai Konghucu.
> > >
> > > Kalau tak salah, juga ada komunitas yang khusus menganut Tao,
> > dengan
> > > rumah ibadah mereka. Jadi, selain "Tiga Serangkai" yang dikenal
> > > sebagai aliran TriDharma itu, ada yang khusus menganut Tao, khusus
> > > menganut Buddhisme (apalagi yang menganut Theravadda). Juga yang
> > > khusus menganut Tantra (seperti dahoeloe di kedatuan Shrivijaya dan
> > > kerajaan Singasari).
> > >
> > > Salam
> > >
> > > Danardono
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>