On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 04:11:04PM +0900, OKUJI Yoshinori wrote:
> From: Olivier Galibert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: initial grub menu over ethernet
> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 19:18:38 -0400
> 
> > Doable without direct support in grub, but a pain.  Not doable if I go
> > around implementing my "serverboot shouldn't have to worry about
> > filesystems, grub already knows them" idea.
> 
>   That's wrong. The El Torito specifies that a boot CD-ROM looks like
> just a floppy or a hard disk via BIOS, so you don't need any CD-ROM
> driver which accesses to IDE or SCSI directly. If your BIOS can't boot
> CD-ROM, you can copy the boot initial image to a floppy. The size of a
> floppy is very small but it is large enough to start up a GNU/Hurd
> system (once Hurd discards serverboot).

I'm not sure gnumach + booter + ext2fs.static + ld-2.1.3.so +
(ideally) libc-2.1.3.so would fit.  We'll see, anyways.


> > Okuji, do you plan to track the file organization of etherboot, or
> > would you accept a seperation in directories between network devices
> > and protocols and an independant eveolution as a result.  For
> > instance, I want NFS, but I also want mountpoint and filename
> > completion over NFS, so etherboot's code isn't enough.
> 
>   That's mostly ok, as long as we can continue to use the device
> drivers without lots of modification. But "mountpoint" is not
> acceptable in the current semantics of GRUB.

Mountpoint was not the right term.  I was thinking more around the
lines of "kernel (nfs,zalem:/root/melchizedek)/boot/vmlinuz [...])" 
with zalem being the remote file server and melchizedek the computer
to boot.  I'd like completion on both the path and the export.  It's a
bit tricky because it requires udp fragmentation support.


>   Anyway, you haven't answered my question, "why one exception is good
> but two exceptions are bad?". IMO, any clear criterion like Pavel's is
> impossible actually.

I agree, that was my point.  What I think we need is a way to
configure things so that the cost is what isn't needed is zero, and
which makes it easy to remove what has bitrotten.

  OG.

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