Dear all,

Nelson is well known in the group for his superb pictures and ENERGETIC
mails, always speaking out when something goes wrong with the group.

I reason of this  low traffic has always been linked to "Warnocks Dilemma".
In the past I have posted about it to various groups.

When mails are not commented, replied, answered, the following possible
interpretations can be made, (source :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warnock_Dilemma )

   1. The post is correct, well-written information that needs no follow-up
   commentary. There's nothing more to say except "Yeah, what he said."
   2. The post is complete and utter nonsense, and no one wants to waste the
   energy or bandwidth to even point this out.
   3. No one read the post, for whatever reason.
   4. No one understood the post, but won't ask for clarification, for
   whatever reason.
   5. No one cares about the post, for whatever reason.
   6. Writing a good reply would require doing research that the reader
   lacks the time to undertake.
   7. One has a mild interest in the topic raised but doesn't feel qualified
   to comment.
   8. An overly insightful reply would commit one to additional work but the
   reader doesn't want to get involved.

The victim of "Warnocks Dilemma" is termed as Warnocked.

I have been Warnocked a lot of time.

Based on my view,
The person in our group who is warnocked most is our moderator - Vijay
Varve. But he doesn't seem to complain. He wants this group not only to
survive, but also to flourish.

And I believe the luckiest person in ButterflyIndia group, who have been
warnocked least times is- Krushnamegh Kunte.

But as a solution, I can only suggest that
1. Whenever any one can see a post, if he/she can shed some light on it
(even if the species is too common to be identified. For amateurs no species
is common.), can reply.
2. Post your pictures. Keeping it with you may setback our progress of
knowledge about nature.
3. Post your pictures, if it has clarity and details, then your picture
might get selected to be posted in "ifoundbutterfly.org". Applause that you
deserve is not far.
4. Cheer if some has done something good.

And cheers Nelson for initiating this topic.

Regards
Chandan Jyoti Gogoi

"Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither." - Benjamin
Franklin
http://calvinssimulatedreality.blogspot.com/
http://sites.google.com/site/butterflynortheast1/



On 27 December 2010 13:26, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Nelson,
>
> I don't live in India. I don't live anywhere close. I have photos of the
> butterflies of India, but they were taken of butterflies in captivity. I
> didn't think people want to see those. If they do, and say so, I will
> post some of them.
>
> Pat Goltz
> Arizona, USA
>
>
> Nelson Rodrigues wrote:
> >
> >
> > Over the years Butterfly India has been a fantastic source of
> > inspiration for butterfly lovers all over india.
> > We have made wonderful friends, gone on trips, discovered amazing new
> > species, then there were the lifecycles posted
> > that took our learning of this species to the next level.
> >
> > Butterfly india was the first site we would visit, however as a
> > regular viewer of BI. I find that our member
> > involvement has hit an all time low. I know of a dozen good
> > photographers who have stopped posting
> > their images for a host of reasons like ... Arrey yaar nobody
> > responds to my pictures no comments ,no criticism
> > nothing its like a wall, then the other voice i wanted some id
> > nobody responded so i stopped sending pictures,
> > the third said people are too critical i would prefer posting my
> > pictures on flicker, the fourth said the viewers at
> > butterfly india are half dead they just dont respond to our pictures,
> > so what is the point of sending pictures. I only
> > have pictures of the peninsular india people may laugh at me sending
> > these pictures
> >
> > Yes friends, i agree there is a grain of truth in what you say,
> > but can i urge you to take a broader view of this egroup
> > a group is collective strength of all members, that is what will
> > make our group survive and thrive.. so like you if
> > everyone stops posting pictures our group will die a slow death.
> >
> > If you view images constantly and dont post your own images , then
> > that is a very selfish ,one way relationship
> > because every relationship needs a little give and take, Never mind
> > if people dont appreciate your pictures, never mind
> > if they criticise, never mind if they dont respond to your ids, do it
> > because you are a part of this wonderful butterfly
> > family and your contribution is important to the group.
> >
> > Even if your images are of common butterflies you could post them as
> > at any point of time there are lots of new members
> > Do you remember the time when you
> >
> > too could id only 5 to 10 species. Posting pictures from your
> > archives too is also welcome
> > We need everyones suggestions on what we could do to make this e group
> > more vibrant. Maybe we need to upgrade
> > the format on the lines of India Nature watch, where one can see all
> > the postings made by a member even one or two years
> > in a seperate box etc
> >
> > As the year 2010 draws to an end lets hope the new year will see
> > a lot more involvement from everyone. Amen
> >
> > Nelson Rodrigues
>
>  
>

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