Dear Krushnamegh,
thank you for your views. Perhaps the difference in our viewpoints lies in the
difference between the letter and the spirit of the rules governing scientific
publishing. The rules themselves are quite plainly stated in author's
guidelines for all reputed scientific journals.
Best regards,
Peter
On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 21:16:01 +0530 wrote
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Dear Usha,
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I think it is a good idea to publish these sightings in a scientific paper, and
I can help Sanjyog and Karma Dorjee with this. I have written a more detailed
email to the three of you, please check it out.
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Peter is mistaken about scientific publishing and about credits, and his
suggestion about unpublishing and publishing the pictures on the BOI website is
also quite unnecessary. The photos on the BOI website (or on Facebook where
they were first posted) do not affect anything else that Sanjyog and Karma
Dorjee want to do next. Anyway, I have offered more about this in my email to
the three of you.
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With best wishes,
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Krushnamegh.
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From: usha lachungpa
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Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 04:52:45 -0400
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To: Krushnamegh Kunte
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Cc: butterflyindia , "[email protected]" , kdgyatsov19
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Conversation: Bhutan Treebrown (Lethe margaritae)
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Subject: Re: Bhutan Treebrown (Lethe margaritae)
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Dear Krushnamegh,
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This is indeed exciting.� We have been following this on FB eagerly.� You
certainly seem to have started it with your Scarce Jester!! First the rare
Hockeystick Sailer and now Bhutan Treebrown, an endemic Sch-1 species with
range extension in North Sikkim by young local vets.� Since the newly formed
Butterflies and Moths of Sikkim (BAMOS) Facebook Egroup by Karma Dorjee and
Sanjyog, progress has been tremendous due to support of Lepidoptera experts and
amateurs from all over.� Your meeting them through Sikkim Ornithological
Society (SOS) in Gangtok during your last visit for the ATREE funded Sikkim
butterfly project was a big opportunity.� They are both thrilled to see their
butterflies have featured on 'IFoundButterflies'.
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Your help in first publication of both Karma's Hockeystick Sailer and Sanjyog's
Bhutan Treebrown would be a boost to these budding scientists to become
authors.� I learn from both Karma and Sanjyog that they are very keen as this
would be a first for them. Karma got his BVSc this month itself, Sanjyog just a
few years ago and presently with ICAR! This would be big for their CVs and
ensure their continued interest in biodiversity conservation in Sikkim where
development is fast overtaking conservation in many areas due to lack of
information, and more important, lack of local involvement & initiative.
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I have a starter/beginner article attached which may help but definitely needs
your input.� Can you suggest where their article could be published as a titled
paper in recognized journal?
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Also, I request you to add both Karma and Sanjyog's names as co-authors in the
relevant citations on IFB since at the moment they are of course photo-credited
but it looks like a discovery of IFB and not them.� Please don't get me wrong,
but am sure you agree that it would certainly help them.� Peter Smetacek seems
to have found the way forward and I copy below his comment to Sanjyog and
Gaurav on the Bhutan Treebrown thread, which you might not be aware of (and
this would probably also hold for Karma's Hockeystick Sailer):
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Peter Smetacek : Sanjyog and Gaurav, sorry for interfering in what is
essentially a matter between you two and IFB, but I was thinking about this
matter- somehow it does not seem right that Sanjyog should not be able to claim
credit for his discovery in a proper paper in a scientific journal. If I were
Sanjyog, I would ask Gaurav to unpublish the page, then do up a proper paper
and send it to a scientific journal of his choice. After it is published in the
journal, Gaurav can re-publish the page on IFB. That way, the discovery would
get proper ex-pression and Sanjyog can have a scientific paper on his CV.
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This sound so right and feasible so I look forward to your comments eagerly.
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Kind regards,
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Usha
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On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Kunte, Krushnamegh wrote:
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Hi all,
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I am passing on news of a very exciting recent discovery by Sanjyog Rai of the
Bhutan Treebrown (Lethe margaritae) in North Sikkim:
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http://ifoundbutterflies.org/441-lethe/lethe-margaritae
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This species is very rare and is legally protected in India under Schedule I of
the Wildlife (Protection) Act. I do not recall seeing any other pictures of
this species, or even any other recent sightings. I will be interested in
hearing from other people if they have seen/photographed this species.
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Usha, this is a fantastic sighting, another rare species seen in Sikkim once
again. I thought you would be interested to know.
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With best wishes,
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Krushnamegh.
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Krushnamegh Kunte, PhD
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Post-doctoral Research Fellow
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FAS Center for Systems Biology
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Harvard University
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Dept. of Forest, Env. & WL Mgmt.
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Govt. of Sikkim
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