I think it would be prudent to place an abridged version of Jeff and JP's notes in the next Beacon. Both well stated, Gents!!!
73...RH On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 3:35 PM JP Pritchard via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: > Jeff, you've hit on a very important point. I've always been a "group" > kinda guy, starting with Cub and Boy Scouts, school science club as well as > various bands I've played in. And then there've been volunteer religious > groups. It's quite natural to bond with one person and not another, but I > think you always have to look around and try to pull others in. So yes it's > very important to reach out to newcomers, even if you're not inviting them > over for a family get together. > > On the other hand, as a new person in a group, and I don't care what kind > of group we're talking about, if you don't put yourself into the mix, > you'll never mix in. Jeff's experience is a good case in point. When you > jump in to help with a project or a job, you will find yourself building > relationships. It's working and learning together that brings a person into > the group dynamic. If you don't step in, persistently, you'll probably > always be out. > > Show up, reach out, be open, and understand that friendships are usually > long term projects. That said, be a project manager. > > 73, JP, K5JPP > > On 08/04/2021 3:03 PM Jeff Greer via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: > > > Surprised and sorry to hear that some feel excluded... My experience has > been the exact opposite. As a newbie ham who had never been on HF, I > attended what must have been my 3rd or 4th BVARC meeting about 3 years ago, > and they happened to be doing elections. Nobody ran for Corresponding > Secretary, so I walked up to N5VCX as things were winding down and > volunteered to do it. I've been knee-deep in BVARC business ever since. > I've never felt ostracized, but I guess I didn't wait around for a welcome > committee, either... Maybe that was the difference. I've not seen anybody > here intentionally exclude anyone else, but perhaps we should be more > mindful about being explicitly welcoming. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> on behalf of Eddie Runner via > BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 4, 2021 1:53 PM > *To:* bvarc@bvarc.org <bvarc@bvarc.org> > *Cc:* Eddie Runner <eddie.run...@yahoo.com>; ke5...@sbcglobal.net < > ke5...@sbcglobal.net> > *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] Net problems > > > Thanks for posting this Ralph... I like the CLUB to see when this > happens... > > When the old guys clique, they do not even notice they are doing it. > If they dont get complaints they may never notice.... > > as a life member, > I hate it when the club is percieved that way.. And I probably do it as > well sometimes..( i dont know?) > > When I joined back in the 80s it was ALWAYS that way... over the decades > it has > gotten better... > > Join back up with us and help us to make it better!!! > no body knows if you dont speak up (and thanks for that) > > Eddie (NU5K) > > > > On Wednesday, August 4, 2021, 01:00:25 PM CDT, ke5hdf--- via BVARC < > bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: > > > The comments made about how the net control operator made people fell not > welcome mirrors my experiences with BVARC on general over the years. The > club behavior. Has been .....Very strong cliques, if u are not a member we > don't want your inputs, come to a meeting and stand quiet at the wall. > I have tried to participate in activities, tried to invite BVARC to join > my activities, attended meetings every few years only to be always ignored. > > I dropped my membership years ago. > I watch the reflector on case there is an activity I can do on my own. > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > -- Rick Hiller *e-mail: rickhille...@gmail.com <rickhille...@gmail.com>* *Cell: 832-474-3713* *Physical: 9031 Troulon Drive* * Houston, TX 77036*
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