Thanks, JP!  Yeah, I'd seen that.  That video is part of what got me thinking 
about making something tilt-over.  (If I do the tetherball pole base, I could 
probably just tip the whole thing over without any hinge mechanism, but it 
might be easier to keep it leveled without moving the base around.)  I'm trying 
to avoid digging or putting concrete in the ground, which would probably also 
get me in trouble with the HOA.

Not sure I trust fiberglass with the weight of the LMR-400 and the antenna 
itself, which I failed to mention will have a gutted weather station mounted on 
top of it, because "no antennas allowed."  Hey, it's a weather station, not an 
antenna!

Maybe a piece of fence post, a piece of top rail, and then some thicker (bottom 
sections) of a fiberglass telescoping pole would work.  I just want to be sure 
the thing won't blow, bend, or break over without guy lines...
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From: JP Pritchard <jppn...@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 3:37 PM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <bvarc@bvarc.org>
Cc: Jeff Greer <gree...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [BVARC] masts & towers

Jeff
If you haven't seen it, here's a very good implemation of combining steel 
fencing polls and a fiberglass in a crank up configuration that would be 
totally invisible if left in the down position during the day.  It's a very 
clear explanation of his design.

JP. k5JPP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mynik3R4ySU

On 03/30/2022 3:01 PM Jeff Greer via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:


Hi, BVARC!

I'm curious as to what others are doing for masts/towers.  I'm in an HOA ("no 
antennas") with a tiny little yard.  Nobody has complained so far about my 
homebrew "DX Commander" style fan vertical, which looks like a 31' jackite pole 
(because that's pretty much what it is, with some 3d-printed wire spreaders).  
I was holding that up w/ a 5' piece of 3/4 copper water pipe driven halfway 
into the ground.  Worked for several months, but the wind finally bent the 
pipe.  I have some 5' electrical conduit that looks a little tougher, but I may 
resort to guying.  The metal inside the bottom of the fiberglass pole, I 
suspect, interferes with my 10m element, anyway...

I'm also wanting to put my Ed Fong DBJ-1 (which looks like a 5' PVC pipe) up 
with the feedpoint 25-30'.  I picked up a couple of old tires, and I'm thinking 
of filling one with concrete (think tetherball pole) and mounting a couple of 
pieces of angle iron in the concrete, so I can drill holes, put some sort of 
mast between them, and make a "tilt over" base/hinge for the mast.  Has anybody 
built a self-supporting (non-guyed) 30 foot mast out of, say, some sort of 
stock from Home Depot/Lowe's?  The internet has lots of stories about using 
chain link fence top rail (10' sections), but most say that 2 of those (20') is 
all you join before it gets super wobbly.  Would love to use some sort of 
square tube - maybe nesting sections - but not sure where to get 10' sections, 
and not sure aluminum would be strong enough or steel would be light enough...

Anyway, that's where I am.  I thought I'd float this out there to benefit from 
the experience of those who have been there and done that.  Hope y'all can help 
me come up with something that will work while avoiding poor choices that could 
cause damage or hurt somebody.

Thanks!

-Jeff, W5JEF
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