Where are the adults in the room?
One reason I haven’t participated in amateur radio clubs until BVARC, after a short stint with one in Fort Bend County and the other in Polk, is this kind of unproductive infighting.
As I interpret this thread, there was an issue over an event, “Brews with BVARC,” where some individuals were concerned about liability for a group sponsored event where alcohol was/will be served.
Only an establishment holding a TABC alcohol beverage license can be held liable for a person who in an intoxicated state, causes injury or death to someone on the premises named on the permit.
If you go to a private event, it is your personal responsibility as an adult, to know your limit in terms of alcohol intake. As a retired healthcare professional of 45 years, even small amounts of alcohol should not be consumed because of interactions with a large number of common medications many of us take, for example OTC antihistamines.
To make a rather innocuous social event into a talking point or “dividing the club” and becoming politicized is absurd. I don’t get out much due to heath issues in my older age and I got into amateur radio to keep in touch over the radio with like minded individuals or at least those who share a common interest in the hobby.
I joined BVARC about a year ago, not necessarily to attend any social functions, but to support local amateur radio. What I didn’t join is for the same reason I dropped out of the other clubs, because of this juvenile infighting over inconsequential issues like the title of a social event on the club website.
Lewis KC5RJL
On Oct 10, 2023, at 6:14 AM, Eddie Runner via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
MY post isnt political and has nothing to do with elections, my concern was the appearance of the website...
I wasnt mudslinging, I didnt even mention anyones name.. I didnt see anyone mentioning names till you mentioned Mikes....
You (Anthony) mentioned our president about 3 times.. (that is mud slinging)
Why did you drop from the board when there is only a couple of months left on your board of directors term... Your my buddy, I would do anything for you but I am calling you a cry baby.. probably related to Kori running against Mike.
I guess your buddy Kori is running against Mike for president this term..
Mike has been a pretty damn good president for a very long time, he has always been there for our club when no one else has been.. When no one else will, Mikey is always there.. Club is huge, money in the bank, food at meetings, amazing hamfest, thank you Mike !!!!
Time for a change? Sure, Maybe!
Kori is very energetic and very popular in the club.. He is a pretty smart guy. and would likely make a good president .. Will he be willing to put as much into BVARC as Mike does..??
Time will tell.
Eddie (NU5K) it is our club, speak your mind..
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 08:17:45 PM CDT, anthony moro <w5li...@gmail.com> wrote:
I have been thinking all day about this. I think this is a way of throwing mud during the elections. This is not fair to either side. So everyone knows I have left the board for this very sort of stuff. I think this club needs to stop being divided and think about what's best for the club. Acting like this about an event the club president allowed to happen is not what's best for the club. I think that we need to leave the name of the event alone and stop acting like everybody in the club doesn't drink at all. I say this and also tell y'all about my past. I was given probation for my third DWI. While on probation I found a great hobby, and all of yall have been great friends to me. I know that at least one person in the club has a few beers after work. There is nothing wrong with that. So saying that, we should leave this topic alone and think and look to the future of this club. If you feel the same way I feel then think real hard about what is really going on in the club and see how we as a club can pull together and put an end to this click kind of behavior. We should work together, not against each other. Just like some of yall dont get up for the 6:30am breakfast or leave work to go to the Lunch Bunch do the same with this event. If you don't have the time and would like to be with the family instead then don't go and keep your comments about an event the club president allowed to yourself. I am appalled with the behavior of some people that chose to act this way. I know yall are better than this. Now let's get back to having fun in this hobby as one of the largest clubs in texas, and show people what being a great HAM is about. If you have any questions or comments about what I said in this email, please email me directly. I am willing to talk to yall about how I feel about how the club members are acting about an event that has been going on for almost a year now. Also remember the club president allowed this event after talking to Kori the vice president before he became vice president.
I am sorry if this sounded like I am venting. But I am just tired of all the mud slinging in the club. On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 1:22 PM Eddie Runner via BVARC < bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
You guys are finally paying attention!! I enjoyed the BwBvarc the couple of times I went (fellowship), even though I am not a drinker...
I complained when we started advertising it on the website as a BVARC sanctioned event...
Being that we have always tried to put forward a welcoming face and tried to attract young folks and even children and parents to our club...
No one paid any attention to me back then.
PLUS, I am sure some of our members have or have had problems with booze.... Some have had DUIs, some are recovering...!
Some of you know my son, he has been a ham (since 10 years old) and is now 43yrs.. He has been an addict for many years.. Although I like to share with him ham radio things, like the hamfest and so on. I would be afraid to even mention BwBVARC to him.
I didn't go, but someone mentioned to me that the LAST BwBVARC had CBD beers which were noted with warnings that they could affect the outcome of a drug test.
Glad you guys are finally paying attention!!
Eddie Runner (NU5K)
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 01:06:47 PM CDT, JP Pritchard via BVARC < bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
Even if the club turns out to be protected from legal liability, I'm not sure we want our club name to be associated with a possible DUI traffic tragedy. Just a thought.
JP, K5JPP
The promoted title “Brews with BVARC” leans toward making it a de facto, sanctioned event, and this doesn't sit well with some folks.
By W5RH.
Sent from my i-Thingamajig
On Oct 9, 2023, at 11:48 AM, N5LNK - Sean Linkenheimer via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
Philippe,
Thank you I had no idea this was a concern for some. A few years back I was required to be certified with TABC for the The Katy Rice Harvest Festival. I am a Past Grand Knight and former District Deputy of the Knights of Columbus and our council 6950 served beer for the Rice Harvest Festival. Because our council was engaged in serving alcohol we had the responsibility to not serve patrons past the legal limit and were trained how to spot when someone was intoxicated. That being said, the Brews with BVARC event, although a gathering of members at an establishment that serves alcohol, is in no way the same as our club serving alcohol to members or the general public. I believe the club having a Brews with BVARC event in many ways is no different than any of the other membership gatherings; afterall it is about comradery. I have not read the clubs bylaws but if there was something governing this sort of gathering it would be found in the bylaws.
In the past few weeks, I heard some members talk about the legal aspect of having events at the bar/brewery serving alcohol under the BVARC umbrella. Because of the nature of my job, working in the restaurant/Hotel industry, I have some contacts at TABC and ask who will be responsible if some members get intoxicated during a club event at the restaurant or bar. TABC clarifies that The restaurant/bar with TABC licenses that sells and serves alcohol to an intoxicated patron is responsible.
I hope this helps.
I hope you have a great week.
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Hello everyone!
This is another reminder of our Brews with BVARC event coming up this Tuesday October 10th at 6:30pm. We will be at Holler Brewing Company in Houston. Please come out if you can. There's always great conversation and camaraderie out at these events, and we hope you can join us this time around. Give us a call on 146.520 MHz FM Simplex if you need directions when nearby or if you have trouble finding our table.
Please check out their website (Hollerbeer.com) to see their selection of beers and for information about their brewery. They promise to have "pop-up chefs" on-site every day so there should be an opportunity to grab some delicious food as well. As always, arrive when you can, be safe, be responsible, and let's have fun!
October Brews with BVARC:
When:
Tuesday October 10th at 6:30pm
Where:
Holler Brewing Co.
2206 Edwards St. Suite A
Houston, TX 77007
Hope to see you there! Thanks and 73!
Kori Rahman, WX5KR
Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
Vice-President and Club Call Sign KK5W Trustee
Cell: (770) 298 8516
kori...@gmail.com
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