This is turning into a "Brew-haha"
For sure I am entertained. John, KI5HOC On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 9:59 AM Eddie Runner via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: > if you would read the posts thouroughly you might see i enjoyed the brews > events i have been to. > > as for my children. if you had read. my son is a 42 yr old ham who > happens to be an addict. > > the question isnt the event itself. hams can meet anywhere they want to. > some guys may meet to talk ham and smoke weed (and some do). dont care. > > issue to me is simply bvarcs sponsoring an adult only event. all events, > meetings and so on should be good for all members. > > Eddie > > > > Sent from my iphone > > On Oct 10, 2023, at 9:51 AM, Fox Danger Piacenti <kelke...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi, Eddie. > > We are not exclusively an adult club, but that event is an exclusively > adult event. I promise not to bring my children. I hope you will have the > same courtesy not to bring yours. > > If the very existence of an adults-only event on a calendar for a club is > enough to cause problems for children, their caretakers are failing them. > > Best, > > -Fox > On 10/10/23 09:48, Eddie Runner wrote: > > but thats the problem you fail to see. we are not an ADULT club. !!! > > we work with schools. and boy scouts. we even offer a student > membership. and always encorage youngsters to and parents to discover and > enjoy ham radio. > > Eddie NU5K > > Sent from my iphone > > On Oct 10, 2023, at 9:38 AM, K5BOU via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> > <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: > > > > Fox, KW6FOX, well say! > > > > > > <image001.png> > > K5BOU-PhilippeBoucaumont > > Houston*|*Texas*|*USA*|* > > https://mccrarymeadowsweather.com/ > <image002.png> > <image003.png> > <image004.png> > > #77940 > > > > *From:* BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> *On > Behalf Of *Fox Danger Piacenti via BVARC > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 10, 2023 9:27 AM > *To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <bvarc@bvarc.org> <bvarc@bvarc.org>; > anthony moro <w5li...@gmail.com> <w5li...@gmail.com> > *Cc:* Fox Danger Piacenti <kelke...@gmail.com> <kelke...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday! > > > > Hi, all. > > I'm a fairly new member of this club, having joined only a month or two > ago. I went to last month's Brew's with BVARC event as my first intro event > to the club. Seemed like a fun way to get to know some folks and have a > good time. > > And it was exactly that. I loved getting to hang with club members and the > offerings at the bar. I'm a bit confused from some of the correspondence > here. Has anything actually happened that was a problem at these events or > is this a lot of speculation about issues that *could* happen? I don't much > patience for the latter. If it's the former, it's fair to discuss how to > address the issue. If something happened that evening, it must have > happened while I wasn't looking or after I left. > > I expect club members to be adults. I expect people to make their own > decisions. I also am quite aware that sometimes people have difficulties > with addiction and specific substances. > > We're a very large club. That leaves room for diversity of events. It also > means we're more likely to have some members who aren't a good fit for > events. But if we actually come across a member we discover is behaving > irresponsibly at these get-togethers, I do expect those running them to > intervene. Worrying about whose legal responsibility it is comes as a > secondary concern (though still a concern!): I expect the event runners to > address behavior problems and let people who can't behave themselves know > they aren't allowed back. > > I'm telling everyone here as a new club member I found the event fun, I > saw no irresponsible behavior and I had a great time meeting people and > putting some faces to callsigns. I suggest anyone who doesn't like events > at bars not come, and if they have particular concern about a members > welfare if they were to attend, to let the event runner know about it. From > there, we can judge actions. > > If anyone had a specific incident at the event that they felt was handled > poorly and not addressed, I think that's important to bring up here. > Otherwise I'd suggest people live and let live. > > Best, > > -Fox, KW6FOX > > On 10/10/23 08:59, Eddie Runner via BVARC wrote: > > oh i read your email. but i wanted my thoughts to go to the club. not just > you. > > i usually try to get the membership involved. at least thier brains > thinking about some of the fun stuff that goes on behind the scenes. > > > > we need a big turnout for the november club elections! we rarely have > more than one person running for office. should be fun. > > > > as far as Brews with bvarc. months ago i was one of the only ones to > speak up with my feelings on the subject. > > > > now that others are thinking about it and sharing their thoughts you cant > say they are causing problems. they are club members and they are allowed > (encouraged) to share opinions. > > > > if members sharing their views are considered problems then we should be > very carefull who we vote for. > > > > Eddie NU5K > > Sent from my iphone > > > > On Oct 10, 2023, at 8:10 AM, anthony moro <w5li...@gmail.com> > <w5li...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > As you say to me all the time ( you did not read all of my email). I said > at the end of my last response that if you had any more > questions or comments email me directly. I am not going to answer or say > anything bad about the board on the reflector. As stated in my last > response you can email me about the reason I left the board. I just > want the club to enjoy the event and don't want club members to be > causing problems about an event that both Kori and Mike put together.It's > interesting that the problem goes away a few months, and a month later it's > right back with more people causing problems. It's like somehow they were > told about only the bad not any of the good. For a while there were no > problems and now the past few months there is a problem with the event. I > mentioned the club president (Mike), because he talked to Kori about the > event and said, (go with it). So I don't understand how now he or other > club members have a problem with the event. > > > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 6:13 AM Eddie Runner <eddie.run...@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > MY post isnt political and has nothing to do with elections, > > my concern was the appearance of the website... > > > > I wasnt mudslinging, I didnt even mention anyones name.. > > I didnt see anyone mentioning names till you mentioned Mikes.... > > > > You (Anthony) mentioned our president about 3 times.. (that is mud > slinging) > > > > Why did you drop from the board when there is only a couple of months left > > on your board of directors term... Your my buddy, I would do anything > for you > > but I am calling you a cry baby.. probably related to Kori running against > Mike. > > > > I guess your buddy Kori is running against Mike for president this term.. > > > > Mike has been a pretty damn good president for a very long time, he has > > always been there for our club when no one else has been.. When no one > else > > will, Mikey is always there.. Club is huge, money in the bank, food at > meetings, > > amazing hamfest, thank you Mike !!!! > > > > Time for a change? Sure, Maybe! > > > > Kori is very energetic and very popular in the club.. He is a pretty > smart guy. > > and would likely make a good president .. Will he be willing to put as > much into > > BVARC as Mike does..?? > > > > Time will tell. > > > > Eddie (NU5K) > > it is our club, speak your mind.. > > > > > > > > On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 08:17:45 PM CDT, anthony moro < > w5li...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I have been thinking all day about this. I think this is a way of throwing > mud during the elections. This is not fair to either side. So everyone > knows I have left the board for this very sort of stuff. I think this club > needs to stop being divided and think about what's best for the club. > Acting like this about an event the club president allowed to happen is not > what's best for the club. I think that we need to leave the name of the > event alone and stop acting like everybody in the club doesn't drink at > all. I say this and also tell y'all about my past. I was given probation > for my third DWI. While on probation I found a great hobby, and all of yall > have been great friends to me. I know that at least one person in the club > has a few beers after work. There is nothing wrong with that. So saying > that, we should leave this topic alone and think and look to the future of > this club. If you feel the same way I feel then think real hard about what > is really going on in the club and see how we as a club can pull together > and put an end to this click kind of behavior. We should work together, not > against each other. Just like some of yall dont get up for the 6:30am > breakfast or leave work to go to the Lunch Bunch do the same with this > event. If you don't have the time and would like to be with the family > instead then don't go and keep your comments about an event the club > president allowed to yourself. I am appalled with the behavior of some > people that chose to act this way. I know yall are better than this. Now > let's get back to having fun in this hobby as one of the largest clubs in > texas, and show people what being a great HAM is about. If you have any > questions or comments about what I said in this email, please email me > directly. I am willing to talk to yall about how I feel about how the club > members are acting about an event that has been going on for almost a year > now. Also remember the club president allowed this event after talking to > Kori the vice president before he became vice president. > > > > I am sorry if this sounded like I am venting. But I am just tired of all > the mud slinging in the club. > > > > On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 1:22 PM Eddie Runner via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> > wrote: > > You guys are finally paying attention!! > > I enjoyed the BwBvarc the couple of times I went (fellowship), even > though > > I am not a drinker... > > > > > > I complained when we started advertising it on the website as a BVARC > sanctioned event... > > > > Being that we have always tried to put forward a welcoming face and tried > to attract young > > folks and even children and parents to our club... > > > > No one paid any attention to me back then. > > > > PLUS, I am sure some of our members have or have had problems with > booze.... > > Some have had DUIs, some are recovering...! > > > > Some of you know my son, > > he has been a ham (since 10 years old) and is now 43yrs.. He has been an > addict > > for many years.. Although I like to share with him ham radio things, like > the hamfest and so on. > > I would be afraid to even mention BwBVARC to him. > > > > I didn't go, but someone mentioned to me that the LAST BwBVARC had CBD > beers > > which were noted with warnings that they could affect the outcome of a > drug test. > > > > Glad you guys are finally paying attention!! > > > > Eddie Runner (NU5K) > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 01:06:47 PM CDT, JP Pritchard via BVARC < > bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: > > > > > > Even if the club turns out to be protected from legal liability, I'm not > sure we want our club name to be associated with a possible DUI traffic > tragedy. Just a thought. > > > > JP, K5JPP > > On 10/09/2023 12:48 PM CDT Rick Hiller via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: > > > > > > The promoted title “Brews with BVARC” leans toward making it a de facto, > sanctioned event, and this doesn't sit well with some folks. > > By W5RH. > > > > Sent from my i-Thingamajig > > > > On Oct 9, 2023, at 11:48 AM, N5LNK - Sean Linkenheimer via BVARC < > bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: > > Philippe, > > > > Thank you I had no idea this was a concern for some. A few years back I > was required to be certified with TABC for the The Katy Rice Harvest > Festival. I am a Past Grand Knight and former District Deputy of the > Knights of Columbus and our council 6950 served beer for the Rice Harvest > Festival. Because our council was engaged in serving alcohol we had the > responsibility to not serve patrons past the legal limit and were trained > how to spot when someone was intoxicated. That being said, the Brews with > BVARC event, although a gathering of members at an establishment that > serves alcohol, is in no way the same as our club serving alcohol > to members or the general public. I believe the club having a Brews with > BVARC event in many ways is no different than any of the other membership > gatherings; afterall it is about comradery. I have not read the clubs > bylaws but if there was something governing this sort of gathering it would > be found in the bylaws. > > > 73 de > > N5LNK - Sean > > > > On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 11:10 AM K5BOU via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: > > In the past few weeks, I heard some members talk about the legal aspect of > having events at the bar/brewery serving alcohol under the BVARC umbrella. > Because of the nature of my job, working in the restaurant/Hotel industry, > I have some contacts at TABC and ask who will be responsible if some > members get intoxicated during a club event at the restaurant or bar. TABC > clarifies that The restaurant/bar with TABC licenses that sells and serves > alcohol to an intoxicated patron is responsible. > > I hope this helps. > > I hope you have a great week. > > > > > > K5BOU-PhilippeBoucaumont > > Houston*|*Texas*|*USA*|* > > https://mccrarymeadowsweather.com/ > > #77940 > > > > *From:* BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> *On Behalf Of *Kori Rahman via > BVARC > *Sent:* Monday, October 9, 2023 12:58 AM > *To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <bvarc@bvarc.org> > *Cc:* Kori Rahman <kori...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday! > > > > Hello everyone! > > > > This is another reminder of our Brews with BVARC event coming up this > Tuesday October 10th at 6:30pm. We will be at Holler Brewing Company in > Houston. Please come out if you can. There's always great conversation > and camaraderie out at these events, and we hope you can join us this time > around. Give us a call on *146.520 MHz FM Simplex* if you need directions > when nearby or if you have trouble finding our table. > > > > Please check out their website (Hollerbeer.com <https://hollerbeer.com/>) to > see their selection of beers and for information about their brewery. They > promise to have "pop-up chefs" on-site every day so there should be an > opportunity to grab some delicious food as well. As always, arrive when > you can, be safe, be responsible, and let's have fun! > > > > *October Brews with BVARC:* > * When:* > Tuesday October 10th at 6:30pm > *Where:* > Holler Brewing Co. > 2206 Edwards St. Suite A > Houston, TX 77007 > > > > > > Hope to see you there! Thanks and 73! > > > > *Kori Rahman, WX5KR* > *Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club* > > *Vice-President and Club Call Sign KK5W Trustee* > Cell: (770) 298 8516 > > kori...@gmail.com > > > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > > > > -- > > *Anthony Morones* > > * W5LIC* > > *w5li...@gmail.com <w5li...@gmail.com>* > > * 713-410-3948* > > > > > -- > > *Anthony Morones* > > * W5LIC* > > *w5li...@gmail.com <w5li...@gmail.com>* > > * 713-410-3948* > > > > ________________________________________________ > > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > > > BVARC mailing list > > BVARC@bvarc.org > > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ >
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