Hi Ethan,
        I think I have a vocabulary problem. Here's how I was envisioning 
the world. How's this compare to your world view?
        We have a base starting manifest, potentially. If we decide to be 
completely free-form (i.e. a program generates a manifest from scratch) 
that's different from what I'd envision as a derived manifest; perhaps an 
external manifest?
        I would see it as I have a static manifest (perhaps for my 
desktop); then I'd have derived manifests (perhaps for my test machines); 
then perhaps I'd have an external manifest with a program which 
iteratively generates manifests to test all possible manifest 
combinations.
        Perhaps this is a different paradigm or vocabulary than what you 
were intending?
                                                                Thank you,
                                                                Clay

On Thu, 28 May 2009, Ethan Quach wrote:

>
>
> Clay Baenziger wrote:
>> In particular, my question was to how vastly different a machine 
>> installation should be from a derived profile.  I'm not sure if we want to 
>> have two machines vastly differently installed from one manifest. 
>
> When using derivation, we don't have one manifest.  We have
> however many manifest formations the derivation logic could
> possibly form.
>
>> However, this mainly stems from how I would have run my systems when I was 
>> a sys. admin. I would have wanted to define each type of install I was 
>> doing in a manifest and only use a derivation system for tweaks.
>
> In these terms, I would consider the result of each tweak a different
> manifest then.
>
>
> -ethan
>
>>
>>                                 Thank you,
>>                                 Clay
>> 
>> On Thu, 28 May 2009, Ethan Quach wrote:
>> 
>>> Minutes from Wednesday's meeting:
>>> 
>>> Attendees: Ethan, Ginnie, Clay
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Summary
>>> ----------------
>>> Agreed on the requirements.  The requirements list has been updated.
>>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/caiman/auto_install/ai_design/DerivedProfilesProblemStatment/
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Clay had an issue with allowing the decision on whether to mirror
>>> disks or not to be derivable.  It is a requirement for now, but further
>>> discussion needs to be had on why this is objected to.
>>> 
>>> SVM config removed.
>>> 
>>> Extensibility was heavily discussed.  This is still a requirement,
>>> but at this point we do not know if it is feasible to provide full on
>>> extensibility of the list of client attributes that are desired to derive
>>> a manifest from.  The level of extensibility supported will need
>>> to be determined.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Next step is discuss solution proposals.  Proposals will be sent
>>> out to caiman-discuss.
>>> 
>>> Plan to have a reviewable draft of a functional spec out by
>>> 6/5/09
>>> 
>>> 
>>> thanks,
>>> -ethan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ethan Quach wrote:
>>>> Meeting Wednesday 5/27/09 to discuss derived profiles.
>>>> Ginnie's and Sanjay's presence requested.  All others welcomed.
>>>> 
>>>> Goals of the meeting:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 1.  Discuss and agree upon which requirements we will address
>>>>     from list here:
>>>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/caiman/auto_install/ai_design/DerivedProfilesProblemStatment/
>>>>  
>>>> 2.  Next steps - solution proposals, functional spec.  Who will
>>>>    be doing what?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Meeting logistics:
>>>> -------------------------
>>>> Wednesday 5/27  10am PT / 11am MT / 1pm ET
>>>> 
>>>> Duration:            1 hr
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>>>> Caller Paid:         215-446-3660
>>>> Acess code:         8264768
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> thanks,
>>>> -ethan
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