Clay Baenziger wrote: > Hi Ethan, > I think I have a vocabulary problem. Here's how I was envisioning > the world. How's this compare to your world view? > We have a base starting manifest, potentially. If we decide to be > completely free-form (i.e. a program generates a manifest from > scratch) that's different from what I'd envision as a derived > manifest; perhaps an external manifest? > I would see it as I have a static manifest (perhaps for my > desktop); then I'd have derived manifests (perhaps for my test > machines); then perhaps I'd have an external manifest with a program > which iteratively generates manifests to test all possible manifest > combinations. > Perhaps this is a different paradigm or vocabulary than what you > were intending?
[What you're calling above as an external manifest is exactly how derived profiles works with jumpstart today.] I've kinda been considering both of what you're describing above as one bucket of derived manifests. I actually see them as implementation routes. -ethan > Thank you, > Clay > > On Thu, 28 May 2009, Ethan Quach wrote: > >> >> >> Clay Baenziger wrote: >>> In particular, my question was to how vastly different a machine >>> installation should be from a derived profile. I'm not sure if we >>> want to have two machines vastly differently installed from one >>> manifest. >> >> When using derivation, we don't have one manifest. We have >> however many manifest formations the derivation logic could >> possibly form. >> >>> However, this mainly stems from how I would have run my systems when >>> I was a sys. admin. I would have wanted to define each type of >>> install I was doing in a manifest and only use a derivation system >>> for tweaks. >> >> In these terms, I would consider the result of each tweak a different >> manifest then. >> >> >> -ethan >> >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Clay >>> >>> On Thu, 28 May 2009, Ethan Quach wrote: >>> >>>> Minutes from Wednesday's meeting: >>>> >>>> Attendees: Ethan, Ginnie, Clay >>>> >>>> >>>> Summary >>>> ---------------- >>>> Agreed on the requirements. The requirements list has been updated. >>>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/caiman/auto_install/ai_design/DerivedProfilesProblemStatment/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Clay had an issue with allowing the decision on whether to mirror >>>> disks or not to be derivable. It is a requirement for now, but >>>> further >>>> discussion needs to be had on why this is objected to. >>>> >>>> SVM config removed. >>>> >>>> Extensibility was heavily discussed. This is still a requirement, >>>> but at this point we do not know if it is feasible to provide full on >>>> extensibility of the list of client attributes that are desired to >>>> derive >>>> a manifest from. The level of extensibility supported will need >>>> to be determined. >>>> >>>> >>>> Next step is discuss solution proposals. Proposals will be sent >>>> out to caiman-discuss. >>>> >>>> Plan to have a reviewable draft of a functional spec out by >>>> 6/5/09 >>>> >>>> >>>> thanks, >>>> -ethan >>>> >>>> >>>> Ethan Quach wrote: >>>>> Meeting Wednesday 5/27/09 to discuss derived profiles. >>>>> Ginnie's and Sanjay's presence requested. All others welcomed. >>>>> >>>>> Goals of the meeting: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 1. Discuss and agree upon which requirements we will address >>>>> from list here: >>>>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/caiman/auto_install/ai_design/DerivedProfilesProblemStatment/ >>>>> >>>>> 2. Next steps - solution proposals, functional spec. Who will >>>>> be doing what? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Meeting logistics: >>>>> ------------------------- >>>>> Wednesday 5/27 10am PT / 11am MT / 1pm ET >>>>> >>>>> Duration: 1 hr >>>>> US Toll-Free: 866-839-8145 >>>>> Caller Paid: 215-446-3660 >>>>> Acess code: 8264768 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> thanks, >>>>> -ethan >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> caiman-discuss mailing list >>>>> caiman-discuss at opensolaris.org >>>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/caiman-discuss >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> caiman-discuss mailing list >>>> caiman-discuss at opensolaris.org >>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/caiman-discuss >>>> >>
