Laravel is indeed more advanced than Cake 2, but that does not mean that 
Cake 2 is not capable of the same things, it is just that Laravel is 
already using some feature of PHP that Cake 2 cannot use since it supports 
PHP 5.2

On the other hand, Cake 3 is plenty times more advanced than Cake 2 and I 
are to say that is also more advanced in some aspects to Laravel, while 
still maintaining the "easy" feeling of coding with CakePHP. If you feel 
like you want
to make the leap to another framework, you should do it. Learning new 
things will only advance your career. You just need to measure what book to 
read from the scratch :)

On Monday, November 10, 2014 11:25:04 AM UTC+1, Lucky1968 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm currently working with 2.3.10 and all my questions are also about that 
> version.
> I'm waiting to make the switch to 3 until that one is ok for production 
> since I have to get things live for clients and I don't have much time left 
> for experimenting yet.
>
> As said I'm not an 'expert' programmer and when I'm talking about a 'more 
> advanced alternative' I'm talking about what I read from people who compare 
> CakePHP with Laravel.
>
> Since I'm a real perfectionist in a lot of things I like to use the Cake 
> code as close to the manual as possible. But up till now it seems that I 
> still learn new things everyday which I didn't see before in the manual (or 
> at least I might have read them but didn't make a link with a real life 
> usage) therefor I think (for me) it's best practice to learn the new 3.0 
> book from scratch. But as mentioned before then I end up with the question 
> if it might be a  good idea to make the switch like (apparently) lots of 
> others are making?
>
> On Monday, November 10, 2014 10:41:42 AM UTC+1, José Lorenzo wrote:
>>
>> I think it is mostly this group, people are not as active in google 
>> groups as they used to be. That holds true for most of the groups I'm a 
>> member of. On the other hand IRC and stack overflow are constantly active 
>> with questions being answered at a good pace.
>>
>> CakePHP 3 is around the corner, the release candidate is scheduled to be 
>> released this week and the stable release will be soon after that. I don't 
>> quite get the remark you did about the more advanced alternative..
>>
>> Have you used Cake 3? Are there questions about that version that remain 
>> unanswered to you? Do you see any advantages already in using that version?
>>
>> As for learning new frameworks, learning news things is never a bad thing 
>> :)
>>
>> On Monday, November 10, 2014 10:28:38 AM UTC+1, Lucky1968 wrote:
>>>
>>> I posted a few questions lately but I don't get any answers at all here. 
>>> Only 1 reply (and that wasn't even an answer to my problem) to 5 questions 
>>> or so.
>>>
>>> Therefor I'm asking myself if the group of CakePHP developers is 
>>> bleeding to death and if that's so, why?
>>> Or is there a more intensively used group somewhere?
>>>
>>> Are we waiting too long for the new CakePHP 3 version?
>>> And, like I'm reading at several places, is there a much better and more 
>>> advanced alternative (Laravel) which is even more advanced than our 
>>> upcoming CakePHP 3 will be?
>>>
>>> I'm a CakePHP enthusiast for many years now but I'm not an 'expert' 
>>> programmer and when I started With CakePHP back then (1.3.x) there was a 
>>> large community and questions were answered very quickly but that seems to 
>>> have stopped for a while right now.
>>> And I can also see that in this group a while ago we got like 10 updates 
>>> a day while now we only have around 3 updates a day.
>>>
>>> I don't want to change to an alternative framework at all but as I have 
>>> read some comments on the upcoming CakePHP 3 and the fact that I like my 
>>> code to be as much 'Cake' as possible it will require a (for me) rather 
>>> steep learning curve and reading 'The Book' from scratch to take advantage 
>>> of all new techniques.
>>> With this in mind I'm doubting if it wouldn't be more appropriate to 
>>> start learning an alternative (more advanced?) framework right away?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your comments
>>>
>>

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