look, thanks for the finger wagging and challenge to a sword fight but
I'll pass. I did find the thread and the code you linked to a long
time ago. I rejected it because the comments mentioned MPTT, which
again I don't need, plus it is totally incomprehensible to me. I tried
the grigri stuff too but it didn't quite work.

In any case I did also find this which is almost working and is more
clear:
http://bin.cakephp.org/saved/21838

I am new to Cake and expected this to be in Bakery, so when it wasn't
I thought I would ask if there was any progress I was missing, besides
these heaps of code in pastebin which I didn't understand. Sorry if my
post disturbed you.

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