I think you are reading two posts as one. I only mentioned using plugins for all visible features except a very few... nothing about paths.
And to clarify about the app I refer to: The app is made up of many plugins.. not one common plugin. There is a lot of common functionality in the main app... just not exposed as visible features. The app is plugin-based to enable quick development of new features and variations of similar features without changing the central application. The main menu simply lists activated plugins + user management and reporting. Each client may have an infinite variation of plugins activated based on their contract and needs. The central app does a ton of model stuff and other validation and also a fair bit of component things that plugins can make use of. It is all really very straight-forward... but a bit complicated to explain. I tried on my website and the bakery a while back: http://www.eimermusic.com/articles/designing-a-modular-application-using-cakephp-plugins/ http://bakery.cakephp.org/articles/view/designing-a-modular-application-using-cakephp-plugins On May 11, 2:29 pm, AD7six <andydawso...@gmail.com> wrote: > On May 11, 2:25 pm, AD7six <andydawso...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 11, 2:12 pm, keymaster <ad...@optionosophy.com> wrote: > > > > Actually, believe it or not, many of these issues did exist, but > > > admittedly it was a very long time ago. > > > > For example, it wasn't until late 2007 (Oct./Nov. timeframe if I > > > remember correctly), that the ability for app code to access plugin > > > models was introduced into the 1.2 branch through the use of the > > > Plugin dot notation. Prior to that it was impossible. Not by > > > oversight, but by intention. > > > > Plugins were intended to remain optional, decoupled code from the main > > > app, and were not meant to be a means of organizing similiar > > > functionality together. > > > > As an example of the feeling towards app organization/modularity back > > > then, I actually dug up this comment by Gwoo (former Project Manager > > > of cake) from late 2007: > > > > "Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems some are using plugins to > > > organize parts of a larger application. To me, you are on a slippery > > > slope here to basically negating the whole benefit of a plugin and > > > just making it more work on yourself. Using the config/bootstrap.php > > > to organize your MVC requires a lot less code and should yield the > > > same benefits." > > > > That thread is > > > here:http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php/browse_thread/thread/8526219c... > > > > So, you can see it was originally intended that plugins were not for > > > organizing application code, only for sharing amongst developers. As a > > > result there were several limitations to how apps could use, or more > > > specifically could not use, plugins. > > > > While it's true that some plugins are optional and the app should not > > > depend on them, other plugins might neeed to be an integral part of > > > the app, containing code which was just separated off for the purpose > > > of grouping closely knitted functionality together, within the larger > > > app. In that sense, models in one plugin might need to have > > > associations with models in another plugin. (eg. Order belongs to > > > Account, or Order HABTM Warehouse, where accounts, orders, and > > > warehouses are all in different plugins). > > > > The limitations back then (I believed based on discussions in this > > > group, though I never tried it) prevented the use of plugins for > > > grouping together functionality within the app. So, I and many other > > > developers used the additional paths to group things together. > > > > At some point in cake v.1.2 a number of these limitations were > > > removed, and in 1.3 yet more were removed. > > > > So, I'm wondering now that 1.3 is out, is there still a reason to > > > organize apps using the additional paths in config/bootstrap? > > > I think it's safe to say that a quote from 2007 isn't fair > > justification for not just trying it. I've used plugins almost as long > > as they've existed and can't remember having any problems at all > > worthy of 'holding back'. > > > AD > > PS additional app paths and plugins don't solve the same problem, I'm > kind of scared what you've been up to if for you they are > interchangable. 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