two notes on this: a.) while this might not make me friends: Lithium may be able to pull of both: a.) a very microkernel framework that comes without much tools and with a "loose frame" (thus bad for newbies and bad programmers like me ;-p) and b.) a standard set of "addons" "extensions" "plugins" whatever: data sources/object mappers, filters, authenfication, access control, etc.
Why do I say this? Rails 3 did this (Though the basis of Ruby implies different contraints, some very positive other rather negative) (More on that topic on the rails website under screencasts, Rails 3 Screencast Series, the screencasts show the decoupling of the frame- parts (read framework parts) and the great "Arel" :)). So I could very well imagen Lithium and Lithium+, though on the other side of the coin - if there will be no Lithium+ in the long run - I do not see it becoming much more popular than ZF though. b.) I do not like "general" OSS wars, they just consume time. Instead I want to ask a question: Afaik Lithium is committed to some php library standard definitions. Will Cake2 share those? And if that's the case: can you see combined use of both, parts of them and/or integration? p.s: While I do not like php 5.3s syntax, its hard to read, I do not see why to stick with <5.2 if 5.3 offers some real performance benefits. I love that most of the cake's source is easy to read and understand, great spirit. Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CakePHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en