Dear Kangaroo, Look at the Cambodian people, you said. Look at Sam Rainsy and his party, you added.
Don't look too far. Look at ourselves. Once you realized that you have no power to change anyone else but yourself, you are truly a free person. So forget about other people, it is beyond your or my control. Only you can effect the change within yourself. Let's practice civilized debate. It starts from me and from you. Best regards, jay On Oct 16, 11:50 am, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote: > On Oct 15, 1:23 pm, Jayakhmer <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear Kangaroo, > > > As stated earlier, I simply stated, " I have a feeling..." that is is > > intimidation. I was not stating as mater of fact. > > OK! You can say whatever you want. > > > And No, I did not ask for sympathy. I simply encouraged politeness in > > the debate. We may hold different views that does not mean that we > > are enemies. > > What is POLITENESS meant to you? > Do you consider asking to shed some lights of what one has said as > rudeness? > You are right. We may hold different views of things. Debating on this > matter is not rudeness. Some people dodge answering their own views > because they really don't know what they are doing or they say it no > matter what intentionally. Questioning those kind of views is not a > rude act. > > > You and I may hold many different views on any given topics. I never > > thought of you as an opponent nor are you my enemy. You are a member > > of this community and I always tried to treat you as such. > > And why you asked about this matter? > I told you numerous times. I explained my views multiple times. > But Nooooooooooooooooo you can't have any of it. > Go back and read what I have written. Have I ever attacked anyone > personally. > Go back and read your own writing. Have you ever attack or criticized > me personally? > > Once again, what I have asked Thavary to do is to show us her concrete > evidence, which lead her to say what she said. She has never answered > those questions. Actually, she has been dodging it. Do you know why? > You and I know the facts that she doesn't have it. > > > When I crossed my line, I sincerely apologized. > > I hope you do so. > > > I guess the word "intimation" may be a bit too strong. Perhaps, I > > should have used the word "aggressiveness." > > How about saying " I am sorry that I made a mistake."? > > > You said you love to debate. This is a perfect time for that. > > Candidates for public offices are debating across this nation. Notice > > how these people shake hands and give each other a big huge after they > > debated. That is the kind of spirit I am looking for. I mean I would > > feel good even after loosing a debate knowing that I lost among > > friends. I will do better next times. > > Look at the Cambodian people. > Look at Sam Rainsy and his party. > This is what I have been saying. Sam Rainsy has been saying that he is > for democracy and unity of his people. What he has been saying is that > he wants the democracy of his own way and unity of his own people. > Otherwise, they are his enemies. > This is not a unique in Cambodia. It is the tradition of self > destruction. They kill each other for power. > They even destroyed their own nation just to cling to their own power. > This is Cambodia. > > > I hope you understand my stance on this issue. > > > Best regards, > > > Jay > > > On Oct 15, 12:19 pm, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Oct 15, 9:09 am, Jayakhmer <[email protected]> wrote:> Dear Kangaroo, > > > > > I have a feeling that you are trying to intimidate Neak Meeng. > > > > I don't intimidate anyone here. > > > What I am trying to do is to make sure she meant what she said and her > > > says are true. > > > Unfortunately, she seems to blame alot of stuffs on Vietnamese. The > > > truth is that whatever happened in Cambodia made possible by the hands > > > of Cambodians. Whose responsibility is that? > > > > > Please remember that this forum is free for all to express their > > > > opinions. > > > > This is not an academic environment where you have to cite supports > > > > every thing you said here ( I misspelled a whole lot in this forum- I > > > > don't think anyone cares. It is a reflection of myself who tried to > > > > spend little time I have to be part of this community ). > > > > Who said that there is restriction on anyone here? > > > Anyone do not have to say anything if they don't feel like to. > > > However, what you are trying to saying is that I shoud restrict my > > > opinioin. Isn't it the opposite from what you are preaching? > > > If I said that my car is white, it would be indisputable if I show a > > > picture of my white car. > > > I can just say it. Then people can say that it may or may not be true. > > > Are you getting it? > > > You are trying to defend something against what you are saying. > > > If you believe in free speech, you don't restrict one person while > > > promoting another. > > > > > You have your own way. Other have theirs. No one is required to > > > > agree with anyone here. If you want to debate, it would be nice if > > > > you could do it politely. > > > > What do you think I have been saying here? > > > I love to debate. > > > I am debating clearly of what I believe with supports that I have > > > offered. I don't come out and say that Cambodian government is working > > > for Vietnamese with no offer of support to what I am saying. If I > > > truly know it, I am not afraid of showing all here. > > > > > I heard outrageous statements from you and others before but decided > > > > to let go knowing that it is yours and others' prerogative to act and > > > > think that way. > > > > That's your decision. No one would force to do it. Yet, you don't have > > > to tell us either. You are telling us here is because you want to ask > > > us for sympathy. Is that right? > > > If I don't like a certain individual, I would ignore and have nothing > > > to do with that person. I don't need to come out and broadcast to > > > everyone. > > > > > The bottom line is she cares deeply about Cambodia. To me that is > > > > good enough. She may have a strong dislike of the current regime, by > > > > all mean, that is her prerogative. > > > > This is your opinion, and I respect it. > > > I have never said that she doesn't care about Cambodia. > > > However, I question many of what she have been saying because I either > > > believe that it is not true or it's wrong.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. 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