Another passing thought: It'd be very much in the spirit of freeform fun little hacks if the camping website included a section of user created apps. They would need to be moderated somehow, unless someone were to set up a try-rubyish highly sandboxed environment to run them. It just seems like there'd be no better way to show what Camping is all about than to have it's very own website full of fun little examples of camping apps, with a way to see the source code of each right in there. If you guys had something like that, i'd love to contribute some quirky little multiplayer games, and an extremely simple chat thing. :)
What with rack mounts, this should be easy, right? Why did say at art & code that he didn't really care if the code editor part of HetyH was really good - what mattered was the sharing. The forum. The code messaging system. The apps which could talk to each other over the web through the various APIs. That was the important part of hackety hack. I think that's the important part of camping as well. The main reason I use Camping over Sinatra and the likes is the way it feels so warm and fuzzy, and I know if I have any troubles, I get to come talk to all you awesome people. :) If we had the sandboxed thing, it'd be fairly trivial to include a little cli app in the camping gem to upload the app in to a whyism or hetyh or whatever account, where it could sit in a little bin of recent uploads, and be attached to forum posts, or shared out like tinyurls. The most important part of all that is kids. Kids don't have web servers. It's all well and good to have camping ourselves, but if we're to think for one minute that we're helping kids learn ruby (which after all, was _why's mission), we've got to be offering some fairly easy way for them to host this stuff. Does anyone know much about sandboxing? Anyone know if it'd be particularly difficult to do things like monkeypatch the IO class to effectively chroot and secure a camping app? Can we disable `system calls` too? What's involved in making something like that viable? Hosts like Dreamhost seem to already be making use of Passenger to dynamically allocate ruby processes to apps, so they can be booted up when requested and shut down after they idle for a minute. :) — Jenna Fox http://creativepony.com/
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