My attitude towards using camping for serious business mostly stems from being burnt by rails. I practice coding as an extension of creativity, not as a job, and rails has enormous hosting costs for someone with no income. I initially started using camping as it could run well as a CGI script on the cheapest grungeist web hosts.
Capitalistic forces have largely taken over the once gloriously creative practice of hacking, and turned it in to little more than data entry jobs, with all it's best practices, unit tests, and all the rest. Camping to me is special because it's all about creation, and not about fitting in to a certain task or "market". This is entirely self destructive though in the long term for businesses too, as tools which are unusable by the poor are tools which are unusable in the future. Students don't have software dollars. Though as an open source project we owe nothing to capitalism. We have no business propping up commerce. Rails is a great tool for building medium to large business applications and so my preference is that we entirely ignore that which drives 'marketed' frameworks, and focus on what we're really good at — making fun awesome hacks, and teaching the next generations. Little doodads for the sake of themselves. Thoughts? :) — Jenna / @Bluebie On 24/08/2010, at 11:47 AM, Philippe Monnet <r...@monnet-usa.com> wrote: > I am not sure I can even try to get close to the "philosophy" as I consider > myself still a newcomer to Camping. So I am missing a lot of the > background on Camping (even though I have read quite a few materials, books, > posts, videos, etc. about _why's contributions. > > For me, I love Camping because: > � - it is small > � - the code is crazy clever and taught me a lot about things I did not > know about Ruby metaprogramming > �- the MVC structure help me structure my thoughts and apps > �- it is very extensible once you figure out the extensibility points you > need > �- creating all sorts of apps or services is really fun and enjoyable > �- you can build some decent size/complexity apps if you try (I don't > subscribe to the analogy about the "dark side" as I feel Camping is about > freedom to build whatever you want) > �- you can either use it for play or for work (that tends to happen if you > like it so much you want everything to be built with it. > �- it can capture your imagination in terms of what you could use it for > (e.g. the fun/play/learn sandbox idea) > > Philippe (@techarch) > > PS -I have deployed apps on Heroku and will help with the deployment section > of the book > � > > > On 8/23/2010 3:05 AM, Jenna Fox wrote: >> >> The camping website (new one) includes a link to a not-existant wiki page >> called 'Philosophy', which was inherited from Judofyr's version. I keep >> meaning to create this article, but I'm increasingly wondering... >> >> What do we all feel is Camping's philosophy? >> >> My take: Camping is all about hacking and exploring and having fun, and >> certainly isn't serious business. I think it's also for newbies, including >> kids, because that's what nearly all of _why's projects were for. >> >> But that's very past tense. I'm not sure anymore. What do you all see >> camping as being? What's it's purpose for you? >> >> >> � >> Jenna >> _______________________________________________ >> Camping-list mailing list >> Camping-list@rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > Camping-list mailing list > Camping-list@rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
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