I just don't see the point in creating our own elaborate infrastructure which we then have to maintain indefinitely, which is more complicated than static files. Our site is static html right now because there's nothing about the site which is dynamic - but those static files were rendered by a camping app which I just mirrored to static files recently using wget so we could switch things over to github pages. Unless there's going to be some dynamic element to the camping site, I'd rather the stability and scalability afforded to us by github pages and static files than some token ritual of dogfooding. Both the sites of Ruby on Rails and Sinatra seem to use caching servers between their users and ruby backends, with sinatra's in particular caching responses for many hours. I think we're winning the ruby race - our cache caches for days, even weeks! It's a really smart cache.
As for forums, I'm interested, and I agree it would be best done as a camping app, if for no better reason that there isn't really any good free forum software still being maintained which runs on ruby, as far as I know. For our blog though, tumblr is great. It's had very little downtime in recent weeks. I think it's worth forgiving them - their user base became something like ten times as big in the space of one day, after their collaboration with the The Colbert Report - for a site which takes photo, music, and video uploads, that's a pretty substantial change. They seem to have sorted it out now, only having very minor blips from time to time. Further, tumblr is based on the tumblog concept, which was pioneered and named by none other than our former friend Why The Lucky Stiff, and itself does run on our close relative, Ruby On Rails. In fact, a large proportion of GitHub is a Rails app too. — Jenna On Thursday, 29 March 2012 at 6:29 AM, david costa wrote: > Hi Jenna this is great ! > let's see how the screencasts come along then you can see. Just one point > about tumblr (which is good don't get me wrong) wouldn't it be better to have > a small site on camping ? I am pretty excited to build this in camping and > show the screencasts inside it. Of course will need to show code not nice > words only ;) but this should be the final aim. > > I am not asking anyone to do it/code it etc. I am just saying this should be > the ultimate goal because with no camping code in production people might > think this is just a quick hack just for the fun of it with not much of a > real use beside a proof of concept... which is a bit of a pity. > > Like there are hundreds of frameworks on git, google code etc. but how many > can be bothered to try them out without having some working samples or a good > site (and I really like your design !!) to show how is this working ? > > For example there is some activity in the mailing list so it could be > something nice to show on the website (like this topic at > http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.ruby.camping.general/1648) but of > course within the site and not an external link. This could be enough while > there is no forum etc. > > On another note tumblr is not exactly very stable ! > > *this said* I totally see your point as you have this functionality already > on tumblr so if one wants to be up and quickly with something it is certainly > better than any bigger but uncoded masterplan :) > > Regards > David > > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Jenna Fox <[email protected] > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote: > > We have a tumblr blog - maybe we should turn on the 'ask' feature and make > > it a Q and A thing. It would grow in to a google friendly fact book, a bit > > like a stack exchange, for looking up specific problems and techniques. > > Tumblr is a nice medium for adding photos and screencasts and the likes > > too. > > > > — > > Jenna Fox > > > > > > On Thursday, 29 March 2012 at 12:22 AM, Paul van Tilburg wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 06:57:51AM -0600, Philippe Monnet wrote: > > > > I think it would be fun too. Love meta stuff. > > > > In general I think the more tutorials / screencasts / posts / sites > > > > on Camping, the merrier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Although I generally agree, I'd prefer them to be somewhat > > > organised/structured. For example, the blog is a good basic app, > > > but I would like to have tutorials for specific things such as: > > > adding cookies, sessions, using different view/template systems, > > > integrating multiple apps, etc. Rather than having a screencast of a > > > "wiki" app that happens to mention sessions. > > > > > > In my opinion the Camping site should answer questions/help out > > > with different aspects of creating/extending/maintaining a Camping > > > application. This is something that currently requires joining > > > #camping on IRC, asking the question and waiting for a long time. > > > (Not there that is anything whatsover wrong with our IRC-channel. :) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Paul > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Camping-list mailing list > > > > [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) > > > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Web: http://paul.luon.net/home/ | E-mail: [email protected] > > > (mailto:[email protected]) > > > Jabber/GTalk: [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) | GnuPG key ID: > > > 0x50064181 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Camping-list mailing list > > > [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) > > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Camping-list mailing list > > [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list > > _______________________________________________ > Camping-list mailing list > [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list > >
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