Sadly though,  information on this list IS stored on a data base. It is there 
and available for ever to anyone who cares to look.

More worrying to me though is that it's also stored in that rather unreliable 
database which is human memory. People don't remember that there was trouble 
in, say, Kidderminster in February 2007. What they are aware of is some vague 
disquiet that Kidderminster is not a safe place to moor. This may be correct of 
Kidderminster or Kinver or wherever. But the common sense way of arriving at 
that decision is by seeing what conditions are like on the ground, by talking 
to other boaters, by applying common sense.

We shouldn't just condemn a place on this list, for unless we're willing to 
post every time we moor safely the knowledge we glean is inevitably going to be 
slewed towards the negative.

 Or putting it another way, one person has had a recent problem at Middlewich. 
How many haven't? A hundred? A thousand?

Steve 
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Roger Millin" <[email protected]>

Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:17:45 
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [canals-list] Re: Middlewich


Steve wrote:
> In that case Roger let me warn you that there is not a single stretch of the 
> canal system where there has not been trouble at some time, including Skipton 
> where as you know I experienced it myself. That knowledge is valuable? It's 
> valueless IMO. Better just to use common sense. And if something happens 
> report it to the appropriate authorities, not this list where serious damage 
> may be done to a local economy.



Yes the knowledge is valuable because you don't keep the knowledge stored on a 
data base for ever and ever. If it is kept in your head the more distant ones 
will fade and the more recent ones will be freshest. This allows you to make 
rolling decisions based on your judgement coupled with the info. I'm not the 
slightest bit interested in the fact that an incident happened one hundred 
years ago, but I am in one that happened one month ago. Yobs have a habit of 
returning to the place that they last had a bit of 'fun' until such time as 
they grow up or lose interest

I well recall you berating me for not wanting to moor on Worcester's public 
moorings, choosing to moor in the hire boat basin instead. The fact that the 
public mooring was covered in broken glass and the adjacent walls in graffiti 
allowed me to make my own judgment, but based on the advice of others not to 
moor there.

If damage is done to a local economy then, perhaps, it will encourage the local 
authorities (Council, Police etc) to do something about the situation but, I 
agree, that it would be better to register a complaint with the Police so that 
the incidents can be logged. 

I totally agree that Skipton isn't safe. I wouldn't want anyone to boat here 
personally; it's full of undesirables living in run-down shacks close to the 
waterway near the centre of town. These undesirables are known to want to keep 
the supplies of local beer to themselves also; a very nasty habit IMO :-)))
Roger



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