Strange,I phoned BW London Office at 09.10 yesterday to speak to John Guest. 
Got straight through to him and discussed the sign. Ditto with Jamie France a 
couple of minutes later

--- In [email protected], Adrian Stott <re...@...> wrote:
>
> "mick L" <planel...@...> wrote:
> 
> >Just heard from a boater that BW have put a new sign on the Folly Bridge 
> >Hertford close to the end of navigation Just before the last turning point, 
> >saying.  "No suitable for craft". This turning point is in the Nicholson 
> >book on page 116. Will post a photos of the sign in the photo section, the 
> >other red signs have been up for a long time warning of work. 
> 
> Very interesting.
> 
> As I had to go into Hertford this morning (by car), I took at look at
> the situation.
> 
> It's true -- there is recent signage on Folly Bridge.
> 
> This is the second bridge below the head of navigation, and between it
> and the next bridge upstream is the only (remaining) winding hole on
> the top pound so it's essential for the bridge to be navigable.  
> 
> On the south bank between the top two bridges development is taking
> place (a new library, some housing, etc.), and the work has involved
> some (probably unnecessary) alteration of the old wharf walls,
> insisted on by EA.  While this work was taking place, there was quite
> a bit of activity in the water.  As a result, a red "Caution -- River
> Works Ahead" sign was put on the downstream side of the bridge.
> Actually, whoever put it there seems to have a bad case of Hsitis, as
> two signs were installed.  However, the "river works" seem to have
> been finished for some time, but the signs remain.  Shouldn't the
> person who put them up be responsible for taking them down?  Or maybe
> there's more work to be done soon?  Nice to know.
> 
> But as Mick reports, another sign has now appeared.  This is indeed an
> official BW sign, and it does say "Not suitable for craft".  Huh?  
> 
> So I phoned BW.  That proved to be an interesting exercise.  I first
> phoned the number of the Enfield maintenance office, which usually
> knows what is actually going on on the river.  "Out of service" tone.
> Well, that office ceased to be a public contact point some time ago,
> so it wouldn't be a surprise if its number had been changed.  
> 
> So I phoned BW London, and the call said it was answered at Brentford.
> I said that I'd tried to contact Enfield, but its number  seemed now
> to be out of service.  "Oh, no", I was told, and was given a new
> number.  Which I then tried.  "Out of service" tone.
> 
> So I phoned BWL again, and simply said I had a question about the Lee.
> At first, the person answering seemed not to have heard of the Lee,
> but then I was told all the phones in Customer Services were busy, so
> someone would phone me back.  I said that wouldn't be convenient, so I
> would wait on hold.  I was told I couldn't -- apparently BWL doesn't
> do "hold" any more.  So I asked to speak to Jon Guest, the manager. He
> was not in the office.  So I asked to speak to anyone at all in BWL,
> and was relieved to be put through to a helpful, courteous, and
> knowledgeable  woman.
> 
> Is this BWL's new approach?  Doesn't seem to be designed for the
> convenience of the customer, I feel.  It isn't reasonable to assume
> that it is always possible to call people back.  What if I'd been
> phoning from someone else's phone, and would be leaving the premises
> immediately after the call?
> 
> Anyway, the woman quickly understood the problem, and put me on hold
> while she talked to the maintenance supervisor.  She then told me that
> the wrong sign had been put on the bridge!  "Ah, good", I thought.
> 
> However, she went on to say that the correct sign would replace it
> soon.  And that that sign would say "End of navigation".
> 
> Er, no.  Folly Bridge is *not* the end of the navigation.  It is the
> end of the part of the navigation that BW owns.  I explained this.  I
> also asked the supervisor to phone me in the next couple of days, and
> she said she would ask him to.  I'll post the results.
> 
> ISTM there's no need for any sign at all.  After all, BW doesn't put
> an "End of navigation" sign at Limehouse lock, does it?  And such a
> sign would be bound to cause confusion, suggesting to the unfamiliar
> that the bridge (and the waters beyond it) are unnavigable.
> 
> How *do* these things happen?
> 
> <sigh> (or should that be <sign>?)
> 
> Adrian
> 
> Adrian Stott
> 07956-299966
>


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