Hi Sameera,

Are we going to do this change for Carbon 4.0.0? Had an offline chat with
Samisa on this. Given the amount of work and time needed to complete and
stabilize this, we just thought it's good to push this to 5.0.0. What do
you think?

Thanks,
~Isuru

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Nuwan Bandara <nu...@wso2.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Afkham Azeez <az...@wso2.com> wrote:
>
>> For this approach to properly work, we need to have proper package export
>> & import versions. Otherwise, say for example, two different features
>> require different versions of a particular bundle, then these features may
>> not be able to coexist. When upgrading a versions of an orbit dependency,
>> the should be a way to track all its dependant &  change them accordingly
>> to avoid ending up with unnecessary jar duplication.
>>
>
> +1, we need to concentrate on imports and exports more than we are doing
> now. Its a nightmare to find issues when an orbit bundle is updated not
> knowingly.
>
> Regards,
> /Nuwan
>
>
>>  --
>> Afkham Azeez
>> Sent from my phone
>> On Feb 6, 2012 9:27 PM, "Sanjiva Weerawarana" <sanj...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for going ahead (without opinion on timing) and to Amila's suggestion
>>> of making the orbit stuff another TLP.
>>>
>>> I'm +1 for graphite per Senaka for X.
>>>
>>> Sanjiva.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Dimuthu Leelarathne 
>>> <dimut...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> +1.
>>>>
>>>> When installing other features to different products, it should mention
>>>> the carbon core version. Currently, the carbon core is the intersection of
>>>> products, so there is no problem at all. But if we go ahead with minimizing
>>>> carbon-core it can be tricky to handle. Just had an offline chat with
>>>> Sameera, and according to him P2 handles it nicely.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> dimuthu
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Sumedha Rubasinghe <sume...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 for the idea. B4 doing the actual change, how about running through
>>>>> different scenarios (like Amila mentioned) - like how we did for branching
>>>>> approach. Figuring out problems later would be costly in terms of time.
>>>>>
>>>>> /sumedha
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Sameera Jayasoma <same...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> *Objective*:
>>>>>> Make Carbon core a top level project in WSO2 trunk. At the moment
>>>>>> complete Carbon platform code lies under
>>>>>> https://svn.wso2.org/repos/wso2/trunk/carbon/. This structure has
>>>>>> its own problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Motivations*:
>>>>>> 1) Carbon core can be treated as a separate product which has its own
>>>>>> dependencies, orbit and Carbon core can be released independently of 
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> Carbon components, products.
>>>>>> 2) To ensure that the Carbon based products can depend on a stable,
>>>>>> well tested and released version of Carbon instead of the Carbon trunk.
>>>>>> 3) This will also ensure the stability of the Carbon based products,
>>>>>> because they are no longer depend on the Carbon trunk which might undergo
>>>>>> drastic changes time to time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Execution*:
>>>>>> Here is my proposal.
>>>>>> 1) We need to create two top level directories for Carbon and for
>>>>>> components, features and Carbon based products. Sample structure is shown
>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> carbon
>>>>>> |--dependencies
>>>>>> |--orbits
>>>>>> |--core (core set of bundles.)
>>>>>> |--features (Carbon core features)
>>>>>> |--product (Carbon product)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> X (TODO we need to come up with a name. How about silicon. Dr.
>>>>>> Sanjiva once mentioned this name. :) )
>>>>>> |--dependencies
>>>>>> |--orbits
>>>>>> |--components
>>>>>> |--features
>>>>>> |--products
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) In order to change the existing svn structure to a structure like
>>>>>> above, we need to hold all the commits, say for two to three days and
>>>>>> restructure the SVN, test properly and release for commits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please feel free to comment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Sameera.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Sameera Jayasoma
>>>>>> Technical Lead and Product Manager, WSO2 Carbon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WSO2, Inc. (http://wso2.com)
>>>>>> email: same...@wso2.com
>>>>>> blog: http://tech.jayasoma.org
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