Hi Tharindu,
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Tharindu Mathew <thari...@wso2.com> wrote: > Hi Sameera, > > We are picking on logging here We are not picking any particular component, team or developer. Yesterday we came across this while fixing a build failure. Hence thought of removing this dependency. If anyone thinks that we are picking on stuff, then please advice us on the correct ways to handle such cases. > but there are many more. Yes. There are many more. And we can't solve EVERYTHING at once. It should be a step by step process. Identifying small improvements one by one and fixing them. > Do you have a list of bundles we want to remove to make Carbon a proper > minimum kernel? Nope. I am afraid we don't have. In fact we don't have to completely minimize Kernel for 4.0.0 release. Proper minimization will happen for 5.0.0 release as per the release plans. Therefore for Carbon 4.0.0, the plan is to fix these small cases and make it ready for a proper minimization. We would appreciate the cooperation from all the developer on this effort. Thanks, Sameera. > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Amani Soysa <am...@wso2.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Tharindu Mathew <thari...@wso2.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Sameera Jayasoma <same...@wso2.com>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Amani Soysa <am...@wso2.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Sameera Jayasoma >>>>> <same...@wso2.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Thilina Buddhika <thili...@wso2.com >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> [Sorry, the subject was accidentally removed when sending out the >>>>>>> email.] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On a side note, I think we have some classes inside Carbon core >>>>>>> which are not really a part of Carbon core functionality, for example >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> cache entry implementations like IdentityCacheEntry. With Tomcat >>>>>>> OSGification, I guess we can move these classes to corresponding >>>>>>> components >>>>>>> and allow them to evolve independent of the core. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> +1. >>>>>> >>>>>> Deep/Amani, Can we remove this appender from the Carbon kernel? Btw, >>>>>> who will work on removing cache entry functionality from kernel. >>>>>> >>>>>> Will do, but where should we keep CassandraAppender?. >>>>> >>>> Move it to a component named carbon-logging or any other suitable name. >>> I don't think this belongs to the kernel. >>> >> Ah ok I will remove it from the kernel. >> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Since its extending log4jAppender and isn't carbon kernel the best >>>>> place to put it? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Log4jAppender is an interface which allows to people to extends log4j >>>> functionality. And this appender is one such implementation which push logs >>>> to the Cassandra database. This appender has nothing to do with Carbon >>>> kenel, IMHO. Can you please explain why you think, it should be in Carbon >>>> kernel? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Sameera. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Sameera. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Thilina >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Sameera Jayasoma <same...@wso2.com >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Devs, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is a Cassandra log4j appender in Carbon.Utils bundle[1]. Due >>>>>>>> to this logger, following dependencies has been added to the Carbon >>>>>>>> kernel. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cassandra >>>>>>>> Hectore-core >>>>>>>> libthrift. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IMHO, these are unnecessary dependencies to Carbon kernel. We need >>>>>>>> to move this Cassandra appender to the components level. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are some other cases where we can get rid of unnecessary >>>>>>>> dependencies from Carbon kernel, These are initial steps towards >>>>>>>> minimizing >>>>>>>> Carbon kenel. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Sameera. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>> https://svn.wso2.org/repos/wso2/trunk/carbon/core/org.wso2.carbon.utils/pom.xml >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Sameera Jayasoma >>>>>>>> Technical Lead and Product Manager, WSO2 Carbon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> WSO2, Inc. (http://wso2.com) >>>>>>>> email: same...@wso2.com >>>>>>>> blog: http://tech.jayasoma.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Carbon-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> Carbon-dev@wso2.org >>>>>>>> http://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/carbon-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Thilina Buddhika >>>>>>> Associate Technical Lead >>>>>>> WSO2 Inc. ; http://wso2.com >>>>>>> lean . enterprise . middleware >>>>>>> >>>>>>> phone : +94 77 44 88 727 >>>>>>> blog : http://blog.thilinamb.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Thilina Buddhika >>>>>>> Associate Technical Lead >>>>>>> WSO2 Inc. ; http://wso2.com >>>>>>> lean . enterprise . middleware >>>>>>> >>>>>>> phone : +94 77 44 88 727 >>>>>>> blog : http://blog.thilinamb.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sameera Jayasoma >>>>>> Technical Lead and Product Manager, WSO2 Carbon >>>>>> >>>>>> WSO2, Inc. (http://wso2.com) >>>>>> email: same...@wso2.com >>>>>> blog: http://tech.jayasoma.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Carbon-dev mailing list >>>>>> Carbon-dev@wso2.org >>>>>> http://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/carbon-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sameera Jayasoma >>>> Technical Lead and Product Manager, WSO2 Carbon >>>> >>>> WSO2, Inc. (http://wso2.com) >>>> email: same...@wso2.com >>>> blog: http://tech.jayasoma.org >>>> >>>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Carbon-dev mailing list >>>> Carbon-dev@wso2.org >>>> http://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/carbon-dev >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Tharindu >>> >>> blog: http://mackiemathew.com/ >>> M: +94777759908 >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Regards, > > Tharindu > > blog: http://mackiemathew.com/ > M: +94777759908 > > > _______________________________________________ > Carbon-dev mailing list > Carbon-dev@wso2.org > http://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/carbon-dev > > -- Sameera Jayasoma Technical Lead and Product Manager, WSO2 Carbon WSO2, Inc. (http://wso2.com) email: same...@wso2.com blog: http://tech.jayasoma.org Lean . Enterprise . Middleware
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