Hi Anthony,

whether you decide to fork or not to fork, the care2x will stay as a 
project.
We have been laboring on this for a long time.

If you think you can develop a better project in this scale, nobody can 
stop you
from doing so.  In fact I will give you a tip:  developers will join you 
"only" if they
see that you can create something feasible to back up your talk.

Developers are intelligent people (in fact very intelligent), they will 
see through
you very quickly.    Do not fall into the wrong assumption that starting 
an open-source
project (even those you only fork) is easy. It is not.  If you had the 
impression that
care2x project was easy, it was only because a lot of people have 
labored to
make it easy "for you".  Like for example: a guy is now struggling and 
fighting
with a hosting company to repair everything to its previous status while 
you are sitting
in front of your computer waiting for something to happen.

If we dont know what amount of work is being done behind a seemingly 
"easy" project, it is
easy to make the mistake of adding insult to injury.

Good luck in your new endeavor.

Elpidio

Anthony Papillion wrote:

>Dear Care2X Developers and Community,
>
>Over the last year, I've carefully monitored the
>Care2X project with the hopes of it becoming a viable
>option for use within North America. I even, at one
>time volunteered to assist in making sure that all the
>pieces were in place for North American deployment and
>never received any feedback or information. That,
>combined with the recent lack of developer interaction
>with the community, has led me to believe that Care2X
>is dead. Additionally, after reviewing the codebase
>for the last few days, I'm growing increasingly
>concerned about the code itself as much of it seems
>fairly "hacked" together with little or no rhyme or
>reason.
>
>As such, I'm seriously considering forking Care2X,
>using what code is usable, and rewriting the large
>portions that aren't while extending the product to
>better meet the needs of North American hospitals and
>healthcare providers. A fork, as you all know, is a
>radical departure from the established group and it's
>not something I'm lightly considering. It would be a
>lot of work but I believe that the entire project and
>its image would greatly benefit from having a more
>active and involved development team seriously working
>on the project and making it better.
>
>So what's going to happen now?
>
>First, I want to give the Care2X developers and
>community the abillity to respond to this. Is Care2X
>still a viable product? If so, where are all of the
>developers and why are they not participating in the
>community? What are some ideas to make Care2X better
>and, developers, are you willing to listen to the
>communities needs?
>
>Next, after giving everyone an adaquate chance to
>comment on this subject and guaging if the developers
>have a solid plan to fix the problems with Care2X, we
>will either decide to proceed with the fork or give
>Care2X a little longer to shape things up. I think
>July 1 is a good enough amount of time for discussion.
>
>Developers: I do NOT WANT TO FORK this project. But
>one cannot simply create a project, expect it to be
>used, but never interact with the community or move
>the project to more professional pastures. I am
>BEGGING you to give this community some idea of WHERE
>we are going, WHEN we are going there, WHAT we are
>going to do to get there, and WHERE we are going.
>Clear direction is needed. Can you provide it?
>
>Community: Obviously we all care about Care2X and its
>future. Some of us are seriously wanting to move it
>into new and exciting areas but we can't do that
>without either a fork or more developer support. I ask
>that you begin an open discussion on this list about
>the issues you find with Care2X and let the developers
>know what you want, need, and expect from them.
>
>Lastly, I understand that Care2X, like most open
>source product, is largely a labor of love and it is
>the product of many hours of volunteer time. As such,
>I understand that the developers must balance their
>work on the product with their real lives and jobs. I
>am not asking for full-time development on the
>product. I am not asking for questions to be answered
>in 20 minutes or for updates to be done overnight.
>What I am asking is for SOME developer participation
>in the community and SOME active development that
>addresses community needs.
>
>If anyone would like to discuss this issue further
>with me please either email the list, email me
>personally, or call me anytime. My contact info is
>below.
>
>It is my sincere hope that Care2X can rise from its
>current state and become a better, stronger, and
>dominant product. It is my hope that we can all pull
>it out of its slump and into a higher place. But it
>will take a concerted effort and it is my hope that
>that effort starts today.
>
>Sincerely,
>Anthony Papillion
>Advanced Data Concets
>
>P: (918) 926-0139
>E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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