Hi, I think it would be great if some company would do a commercial product of Care2x and give good support. It would bring the strength and quality to this project needs. But it should be done with open source principle and accept that somebody may copy and use it. Just like Redhat Linux is doing and still they make good business. I think the main income for companies is the support they give, not the code itself.
Mauri Niemi On 17 Jun 2006 at 11:52, Meir Livneh wrote: > > > Dear Elpidio > > You have to understand that in certain places, license fee is marginal in the > decision making > process. Functionality and Total Cost of Ownership play a much bigger role. > In North America, a no license fee label has zero appeal, unless it is > attached to a very good, > well supported product. Care2x falls short in both perspective. > The Open Source products that managed to catch in North America, are mostly, > those products > that are distributed and supported by a commercial company (e.g. Redhat) or > were developed as > commercial open source to begin with (e.g. SugerCRM). > In order for care2x to grow and succeed it has to take a similar approach, it > has to become a > commercial open source product, America & European customers have to pay a > moderate > license fee for it, otherwise it is destined to die. > I frankly believe the mycare2 guys are doing the right thing > > meir > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Elpidio Latorilla > Sent: Sat 6/17/2006 9:59 AM > To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2X Issues and Fork > > Hi Anthony, > > whether you decide to fork or not to fork, the care2x will stay as a > project. > We have been laboring on this for a long time. > > If you think you can develop a better project in this scale, nobody can > stop you > from doing so. In fact I will give you a tip: developers will join you > "only" if they > see that you can create something feasible to back up your talk. > > Developers are intelligent people (in fact very intelligent), they will > see through > you very quickly. Do not fall into the wrong assumption that starting > an open-source > project (even those you only fork) is easy. It is not. If you had the > impression that > care2x project was easy, it was only because a lot of people have > labored to > make it easy "for you". Like for example: a guy is now struggling and > fighting > with a hosting company to repair everything to its previous status while > you are sitting > in front of your computer waiting for something to happen. > > If we dont know what amount of work is being done behind a seemingly > "easy" project, it is > easy to make the mistake of adding insult to injury. > > Good luck in your new endeavor. > > Elpidio > > Anthony Papillion wrote: > > >Dear Care2X Developers and Community, > > > >Over the last year, I've carefully monitored the > >Care2X project with the hopes of it becoming a viable > >option for use within North America. I even, at one > >time volunteered to assist in making sure that all the > >pieces were in place for North American deployment and > >never received any feedback or information. That, > >combined with the recent lack of developer interaction > >with the community, has led me to believe that Care2X > >is dead. Additionally, after reviewing the codebase > >for the last few days, I'm growing increasingly > >concerned about the code itself as much of it seems > >fairly "hacked" together with little or no rhyme or > >reason. > > > >As such, I'm seriously considering forking Care2X, > >using what code is usable, and rewriting the large > >portions that aren't while extending the product to > >better meet the needs of North American hospitals and > >healthcare providers. A fork, as you all know, is a > >radical departure from the established group and it's > >not something I'm lightly considering. It would be a > >lot of work but I believe that the entire project and > >its image would greatly benefit from having a more > >active and involved development team seriously working > >on the project and making it better. > > > >So what's going to happen now? > > > >First, I want to give the Care2X developers and > >community the abillity to respond to this. Is Care2X > >still a viable product? If so, where are all of the > >developers and why are they not participating in the > >community? What are some ideas to make Care2X better > >and, developers, are you willing to listen to the > >communities needs? > > > >Next, after giving everyone an adaquate chance to > >comment on this subject and guaging if the developers > >have a solid plan to fix the problems with Care2X, we > >will either decide to proceed with the fork or give > >Care2X a little longer to shape things up. I think > >July 1 is a good enough amount of time for discussion. > > > >Developers: I do NOT WANT TO FORK this project. But > >one cannot simply create a project, expect it to be > >used, but never interact with the community or move > >the project to more professional pastures. I am > >BEGGING you to give this community some idea of WHERE > >we are going, WHEN we are going there, WHAT we are > >going to do to get there, and WHERE we are going. > >Clear direction is needed. Can you provide it? > > > >Community: Obviously we all care about Care2X and its > >future. Some of us are seriously wanting to move it > >into new and exciting areas but we can't do that > >without either a fork or more developer support. I ask > >that you begin an open discussion on this list about > >the issues you find with Care2X and let the developers > >know what you want, need, and expect from them. > > > >Lastly, I understand that Care2X, like most open > >source product, is largely a labor of love and it is > >the product of many hours of volunteer time. As such, > >I understand that the developers must balance their > >work on the product with their real lives and jobs. I > >am not asking for full-time development on the > >product. I am not asking for questions to be answered > >in 20 minutes or for updates to be done overnight. > >What I am asking is for SOME developer participation > >in the community and SOME active development that > >addresses community needs. > > > >If anyone would like to discuss this issue further > >with me please either email the list, email me > >personally, or call me anytime. My contact info is > >below. > > > >It is my sincere hope that Care2X can rise from its > >current state and become a better, stronger, and > >dominant product. It is my hope that we can all pull > >it out of its slump and into a higher place. But it > >will take a concerted effort and it is my hope that > >that effort starts today. > > > >Sincerely, > >Anthony Papillion > >Advanced Data Concets > > > >P: (918) 926-0139 > >E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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