Hi Dan
You have my vote.
Moses Moloi
Gaborone, Botswana
You have my vote.
Moses Moloi
Gaborone, Botswana
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From: Daniel Hinostroza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 4:19:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] FW: Care2X Issues and Fork
From: Daniel Hinostroza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 4:19:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] FW: Care2X Issues and Fork
Hi Elpidio and Kaloyan,
I just checked the myCare2x.de site... Now that I've seen it I can fully
agree with Elpidio. I feel very upset because not only do we have a large
community of people "waiting for Care2x to happen without doing anything"
but now we also have the ones who decide to "fork for their own benefit".
In the end, Care2x receives nothing from the Community but complaints.
Kaloyan, I believe a handful of committed persons will be more effective
than an abusive Community. Let's pursue the idea of developing based on
(Skype) meetings. It's important to hear a voice and make real contact, not
the cold, impersonal e-mail. Care2x is badly in need of an update but it
wouldn't be fair to hand the entire responsibility over to just one person
(you).
Call the meeting, I'll be there. JUST AVOID THE SOCCER GAMES!!!
All the very best,
Daniel
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Elpidio Latorilla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: Sábado, 17 de Junio de 2006 12:13
Para: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
Asunto: Re: [Care2002-developers] FW: Care2X Issues and Fork
Dear Meir,
I fully understand what you said. I am in North America and I work in a
"giant" hospital that uses commercial
software costing millions of dollars.
However, your line of argument follows the "the end justifies the means"
way of thinking.
You see, it is not much about the money but the alleged violation of the
original license. You seem to have chosen
to look the other way.
But this is an old discussion never unique to care2x. This has never
been answered properly and never will be
because it is up to an individual's decision. Like what I said before,
it is your choice.
If one wants to make money out of care2x, he can do it, why not. Just
don't exploit, violate and abuse the
license agreement. If you dont like the agreement, then don't touch
care2x. Its plain and simple.
Let us end this topic here and see what happens in the future.
Oh by the way, don't think that I don't like money. I do, in fact I love
tons of money. I just dont
violate and abuse the original concept of the license to make me rich.
Sincerely,
Elpidio
Meir Livneh wrote:
>
> Dear Elpidio
>
> You have to understand that in certain places, license fee is marginal
> in the decision making process. Functionality and Total Cost of
> Ownership play a much bigger role.
> In North America, a no license fee label has zero appeal, unless it
> is attached to a very good, well supported product. Care2x falls short
> in both perspective.
> The Open Source products that managed to catch in North America, are
> mostly, those products that are distributed and supported by a
> commercial company (e.g. Redhat) or were developed as commercial open
> source to begin with (e.g. SugerCRM).
> In order for care2x to grow and succeed it has to take a similar
> approach, it has to become a commercial open source product, America
> & European customers have to pay a moderate license fee for it,
> otherwise it is destined to die.
> I frankly believe the mycare2 guys are doing the right thing
>
> meir
>
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I just checked the myCare2x.de site... Now that I've seen it I can fully
agree with Elpidio. I feel very upset because not only do we have a large
community of people "waiting for Care2x to happen without doing anything"
but now we also have the ones who decide to "fork for their own benefit".
In the end, Care2x receives nothing from the Community but complaints.
Kaloyan, I believe a handful of committed persons will be more effective
than an abusive Community. Let's pursue the idea of developing based on
(Skype) meetings. It's important to hear a voice and make real contact, not
the cold, impersonal e-mail. Care2x is badly in need of an update but it
wouldn't be fair to hand the entire responsibility over to just one person
(you).
Call the meeting, I'll be there. JUST AVOID THE SOCCER GAMES!!!
All the very best,
Daniel
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Elpidio Latorilla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: Sábado, 17 de Junio de 2006 12:13
Para: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
Asunto: Re: [Care2002-developers] FW: Care2X Issues and Fork
Dear Meir,
I fully understand what you said. I am in North America and I work in a
"giant" hospital that uses commercial
software costing millions of dollars.
However, your line of argument follows the "the end justifies the means"
way of thinking.
You see, it is not much about the money but the alleged violation of the
original license. You seem to have chosen
to look the other way.
But this is an old discussion never unique to care2x. This has never
been answered properly and never will be
because it is up to an individual's decision. Like what I said before,
it is your choice.
If one wants to make money out of care2x, he can do it, why not. Just
don't exploit, violate and abuse the
license agreement. If you dont like the agreement, then don't touch
care2x. Its plain and simple.
Let us end this topic here and see what happens in the future.
Oh by the way, don't think that I don't like money. I do, in fact I love
tons of money. I just dont
violate and abuse the original concept of the license to make me rich.
Sincerely,
Elpidio
Meir Livneh wrote:
>
> Dear Elpidio
>
> You have to understand that in certain places, license fee is marginal
> in the decision making process. Functionality and Total Cost of
> Ownership play a much bigger role.
> In North America, a no license fee label has zero appeal, unless it
> is attached to a very good, well supported product. Care2x falls short
> in both perspective.
> The Open Source products that managed to catch in North America, are
> mostly, those products that are distributed and supported by a
> commercial company (e.g. Redhat) or were developed as commercial open
> source to begin with (e.g. SugerCRM).
> In order for care2x to grow and succeed it has to take a similar
> approach, it has to become a commercial open source product, America
> & European customers have to pay a moderate license fee for it,
> otherwise it is destined to die.
> I frankly believe the mycare2 guys are doing the right thing
>
> meir
>
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