Hi Coolman and others, I know about the issue of bandwith for some countries and that sourceforge.net had last years a lack especially on that corner (slow and definetly not sadisfying me when I am working on a project).
We realized it in a way like Mauri described: We set up an local cvs server, now an svn (but doesn't matter), to work on a project step. After a milestone I used rsync and svn to commit it back to sf.net. If anyone was interested about the intermediate steps or developer's edition they got it always. The more issue about my experience during all these years was not the availability or the internet speed, it was more the lack of "how to use svn" and the fear that something could be done wrong and other would be disturbed by this commitment. For that I can just say, that it would not any issue. Care2x and its conception was from the beginning with the vision that all user will able to commit (in spite of other OSS porjects, where just a view people can commit). The idea is: By building a critical mass of contribution there are coming good ideas back to the project. btw... the speed of sf.net is much better than some time ago. Maybe they improved something, I don't know. Contributions could also been done not in coding way, it could also been done in reporting bugs, committing new requirement/specification needs and much more. I do understand that there is the existing impression that when a company committing their work that they could be the risk of others to use this work and getting own profit out of your work. But on the other way, exactely that would be the way to avoid it (because why should a new client pay for a work what they could have even for free). The other aspect of a - let say - reserved way of committing even ideas to this developer's list was a really rude tone some time ago here. Please also here: Don't care so much about. Even for me, I am not a English native speaker, I just use english here like a developer do: A communication interface language, not more. If the information what anyone here want to tell is understood, then a developer's list is used as it is concepted: A platform to exchange ideas, to discuss about realisation, a exchange point where user meet developer. I remember well that some time ago one really active member of this list complained to us (as admin's) that all his ideas was scattered down by rude tones - but hey.. this is a developer's list. Just write down what you think and even scattered ideas (including quick own change of mind) are allowed and warm welcome here. Robert Am Dienstag, den 27.04.2010, 20:43 +0300 schrieb mauri.ni...@gmail.com: > Hello Coolman, > > I am not commiting to Care2x but updating my system and have done it using > mobile > connection here in Tanzania, which is not fast (usually EDGE speed is > connected) and it > works. I update using CVS from Robert's server in Germany and subversion from > our own > local server. I have not tested subversion with sourceforce but all data is > text format and > should work in quit slow lines. > > Thank you for your idea of donating. If we establish a channel for donations > then it must be > 100% transparent, money brings easily problems also in open source project. > Also we should > have a good idea how to use it in a way that everybody feels it promotes > Care2x. Good > ideas?? > > Mauri > > Date sent: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:16:30 +0100 > From: coolman coolx <coolma...@gmail.com> > To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2002-developers Digest, > Vol 46, > Issue 6 > Send reply to: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:care2002-developers- > requ...@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> > <mailto:care2002-developers- > requ...@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> > > > Hello Mauri, > > > > Point on. For some of us, making back changes to the code can be > > difficult because of poor internet connection here but we are looking > > at ways to make code contributions even with the flaky connection that > > we have. > > > > Also as a company, we have decided to make certain donations to care2x > > for any lead closed. This, we hope can keep the project going. > > > > Now, the problem is, is there any such channel where one can give > > donations? > > > > I look forward to a very new and sustained beginning for care2x. > > > > Regards to all. > > > > On 4/27/10, care2002-developers-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net > > <care2002-developers-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > > Send Care2002-developers mailing list submissions to > > > care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > care2002-developers-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > care2002-developers-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > than "Re: Contents of Care2002-developers digest..." > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > 1. Future of care2x (mauri.ni...@gmail.com) > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:03:15 +0300 > > > From: mauri.ni...@gmail.com > > > Subject: [Care2002-developers] Future of care2x > > > To: care2002-developers <care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> > > > Message-ID: <4bd5c753.982.3a6d5...@mauri.niemi.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > Thank you for Elpidio for his great vision to start a system like > > > Care2x and for his work during the years to build it. Thank you also > > > for trusting me to take over his role. When I found Care2x there was > > > bigger group of people with different ideas and at the moment the > > > team is quite small. Many have built their own version and we do not > > > know how many versions there are in real hospital or clinical use. > > > Some have given up. > > > > > > Requirements are often so different that it is not easy to build and > > > use only one version. The competition in Europe and USA and maybe > > > even India is so hard and it is not easy to bring a new system to > > > the market where there are resources to use proprietaty softwares. > > > That may be the reason that most developers in this list are from > > > countries where expensive systems are not real option. > > > > > > I hope we could build a team big enough to make a competetive > > > software at least to the markets with less resources. IMPORTANT > > > THING IS THAT EVERYBODY IS SHARING HIS WORK SO THAT WE GET CRITICAL > > > MASS OF DEVELOPERS AND TEAMS. Pepito wrote that without earning it > > > is difficult to continue- which is true. Also it is the other way, > > > if we do not work to get good software we cannot earn money from it > > > by giving support for local implementation. I think each one of us > > > should look for partners and funds to be able to work on the > > > software and also implementation of it. It is in the interest of > > > funding partners to get a transparent system in place. It saves > > > money more than they invest in it, and it saves it quickly. > > > Muhimbili hospital in Dar es Salam increased revenue 300% when they > > > computerized their system (they used commercial software). > > > > > > Care2x is flexible and can run on one computer (we have done it in > > > health center) and it can run in a hospital with hunders of beds (I > > > am at the moment in a hospital like that using Care2x) We are > > > planning now to have a very simple system in mobile phones at very > > > basic level where there is no support, not even power available. We > > > have been able to raise funds to make slow proggress in difficult > > > setting. If it is possible here it is possible anywhere else. But > > > not if everybody is working in their own small corner. SO LETS MAKE > > > IT TOGETHER. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > Mauri Niemi > > > > > > > > > -------------- Original message --------------- > > > Date sent: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:56:51 -0400 > > > From: Elpidio Latorilla <elpidio.latori...@gmail.com> > > > To: care2002-developers <care2002- > > > develop...@lists.sourceforge.net> > > > Subject: [Care2002-developers] Domain names and future of care2x > > > Send reply to: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > <mailto:care2002-developers- > > > requ...@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> > > > <mailto:care2002-developers- > > > requ...@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > thanks to all who expressed interest in taking over the ownership of > > > care2x domains. > > > > > > I owe you all an explanation for the recent changes. I have not done > > > any development work on this project in the last few years and I > > > don't see me working on it in the coming years. Because of that I > > > have decided to retire from the Care2x project. I will still be > > > listening to the list and other communication lines of the project > > > but I will not be active anymore. > > > > > > Furthermore, the project leadership will be transferred to Mauri > > > Niemi. He is a doctor working for missionary hospitals in Tanzania. > > > Mauri has been with the project since its beginning in 2002 and has > > > been active in the development of the tanzanian version. In fact, > > > their Care2x version is one of the most successful application of > > > the project. I believe that Mauri will be the right project leader. > > > He already agreed to take over the task. > > > > > > The domain names will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. The hosting and > > > maintenance of the websites and other technical tasks will be done > > > by Gjergj and Robert Meggle. > > > > > > Please excuse any disruptions during the transition phase. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > Elpidio > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ---------- > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Care2002-developers mailing list > > > Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > > > > > > > > > End of Care2002-developers Digest, Vol 46, Issue 6 > > > ************************************************** > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------- _______________________________________________ > > Care2002-developers mailing list > > Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Care2002-developers mailing list > Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers -- -------------------------------------------- MEROTECH IT Engineering Robert Meggle St.-Mang-Str. 8 87616 Marktoberdorf Germany Tel: +49(0)8342 - 8956729 Fax: +49(0)8342 - 8956730 mailto:meg...@merotech.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
