Hi Senthil,

Thank you very much for that powerful and encourage email.
There is just a bit of that kind of work already done what we could
use. 
Gjgerj created some time ago a fancy wordpress page:
http://care2x.wordpress.com/
And Alvaro and/or Lopo a nice facebook group:
http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=26104633286

Also there is a new trac what we might could use, you can reach it from
the sf.net page to report/create Tickets.

What we would need would be a perfect website to publish all these kind
of work and present it to all other in the world what we are doing, what
care2x represent and how it is working. 

If you don't mind my asking if you could contribute to create a good
website/template based on a cms for care2x.org? (Server/technical
infrastructure we will provide)

Thanks
 Robert



Am Donnerstag, den 29.04.2010, 04:09 -0700 schrieb Senthil
(Senthilruban, Puvanendran):
> Hi Everyone
> 
> 
>   Good to see new development on care2x. It is true that Care2x side
> not much progress in past few years and hope that Elpidio's decision
> to handing over to Mauri will refresh the members and activate the
> project again start with fresh energy.
> 
> 
>   I have few suggestions on this other than discussion on
> funding/donations.
> 
> 
> 1. Managing the project by single person with covering all aspects are
> really hard for long term. What i would prefer is make committee to
> lead the project under Mauri. We need to focus on few fronts such
> technical side, product management side and development/support side.
> Good to have separate mail/discussion groups.
> 
> 
> 2. Current user community needs to refresh with active team members,
> like me many of the members were not active for long time. 
> 
> 
> 3. Care2x website needs to improved with forums and get more
> users involvement. 
> 
> 
> 4. We need to get the list of all the care2x deployment all over the
> world and list them in website with details.
> 
> 
> I'm happy share my time and support to this new initiative to bring
> the project to more active and up to date to current requirements and
> technologies
> 
> 
> regards
> Senthil
> 
> --- On Thu, 29/4/10, mauri.ni...@gmail.com <mauri.ni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>         
>         From: mauri.ni...@gmail.com <mauri.ni...@gmail.com>
>         Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x future
>         To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>         Received: Thursday, 29 April, 2010, 4:18 PM
>         
>         Hello Enrique,
>         
>         I have used PayPal for some purchases and it is cheaper than
>         transfering money between 
>         bank accounts. When I transfer money from Finland to Tanzania
>         between my accounts it 
>         costs about 27EUR, but when I pay using Paypal it is like
>         using credit card. Solutions can be 
>         found for donations.
>         But first of all we should have good idea what is the best way
>         to use the money. It can be 
>         used to cover the costs of hosting domains, but we would need
>         a lot of donations if we would 
>         pay somebody for the work like some other open source project
>         are doing. Sofar all are 
>         volunteers and be it so as long as this is small project.
>         Different thing is when developers 
>         customize and support hospitals or clinics. Hope many of you
>         can find such customers and 
>         hope all still bring the code back to other developers.
>         
>         Mauri
>         
>         
>         -------------- Original message ---------------
>         Date sent:    Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:19:08 -0500
>         From:    Enrique Valderrama <enri...@laentrada.com.mx>
>         To:    care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>         Subject:    Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x future
>         Send reply to:    care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>             <mailto:care2002-developers-
>         requ...@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe>
>             <mailto:care2002-developers-
>         requ...@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe>
>         
>         From:                    
>           coolman coolx &lt;<a 
>         href="mailto:coolma...@gmail.com";>coolma...@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
>         To:                    
>             <a
>         href="mailto:care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net";>care2002-
>         develop...@lists.sourceforge.net</a><br>
>         Subject:                   Re: 
>         [Care2002-developers] Care2002-developers Digest, Vol 46,<br>
>                    Issue 6<br>
>         
>         Helo Mauri,
>         
>         I Think PayPal is an universal way of payment, so it's
>         expensive.
>         
>         Maybe an account on an international bank like HSBC, Citybank
>         or BBV.
>         
>         I'm promoving use of Care2x in some Medical and oftalmological
>         small clinics.
>         
>         I hope have news about it soon.
>         
>         2010/4/27 <mauri.ni...@gmail.com>
>             Hello Coolman,
>             
>             I am not commiting to Care2x but updating my system and
>         have done it using mobile
>             connection here in Tanzania, which is not fast (usually
>         EDGE speed is connected) and 
>             it
>             works. I update using CVS from Robert's server in Germany
>         and subversion from our 
>             own
>             local server. I have not tested subversion with
>         sourceforce but all data is text format 
>             and
>             should work in quit slow lines.
>             
>             Thank you for your idea of donating. If we establish a
>         channel for donations then it 
>             must be
>             100% transparent, money brings easily problems also in
>         open source project. Also we 
>             should
>             have a good idea how to use it in a way that everybody
>         feels it promotes Care2x. Good
>             ideas??
>             
>             Mauri
>             
>             Date sent:       Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:16:30 +0100
>             From:         coolman coolx <coolma...@gmail.com>
>             To:          care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>             Subject:        Re: [Care2002-developers]
>         Care2002-developers Digest, Vol 46,
>                Issue 6
>             Send reply to:
>            care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>                <mailto:care2002-developers-
>             requ...@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe>
>                <mailto:care2002-developers-
>             requ...@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe>
>             
>             > Hello Mauri,
>             >
>             > Point on. For some of us, making back changes to the
>         code can be
>             > difficult because of poor internet connection here but
>         we are looking
>             > at ways to make code contributions even with the flaky
>         connection that
>             > we have.
>             >
>             > Also as a company, we have decided to make certain
>         donations to care2x
>             > for any lead closed. This, we hope can keep the project
>         going.
>             >
>             > Now, the problem is, is there any such channel where one
>         can give
>             > donations?
>             >
>             > I look forward to a very new and sustained beginning for
>         care2x.
>             >
>             > Regards to all.
>             >
>             > On 4/27/10,
>         care2002-developers-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net
>             > <care2002-developers-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net>
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>             > > Message: 1
>             > > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:03:15 +0300
>             > > From: mauri.ni...@gmail.com
>             > > Subject: [Care2002-developers] Future of care2x
>             > > To: care2002-developers
>         <care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net>
>             > > Message-ID:
>         <4bd5c753.982.3a6d5...@mauri.niemi.gmail.com>
>             > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>             > >
>             > > Hello All,
>             > >
>             > > Thank you for Elpidio for his great vision to start a
>         system like
>             > > Care2x and for his work during the years to build it.
>         Thank you also
>             > > for trusting me to take over his role. When I found
>         Care2x there was
>             > > bigger group of people with different ideas and at the
>         moment the
>             > > team is quite small. Many have built their own version
>         and we do not
>             > > know how many versions there are in real hospital or
>         clinical use.
>             > > Some have given up.
>             > >
>             > > Requirements are often so different that it is not
>         easy to build and
>             > > use only one version. The competition in Europe and
>         USA and maybe
>             > > even India is so hard and it is not easy to bring a
>         new system to
>             > > the market where there are resources to use
>         proprietaty softwares.
>             > > That may be the reason that most developers in this
>         list are from
>             > > countries where expensive systems are not real option.
>             > >
>             > > I hope we could build a team big enough to make a
>         competetive
>             > > software at least to the markets with less resources.
>         IMPORTANT
>             > > THING IS THAT EVERYBODY IS SHARING HIS WORK SO THAT WE
>         GET 
>             CRITICAL
>             > > MASS OF DEVELOPERS AND TEAMS. Pepito wrote that
>         without earning it
>             > > is difficult to continue- which is true. Also it is
>         the other way,
>             > > if we do not work to get good software we cannot earn
>         money from it
>             > > by giving support for local implementation. I think
>         each one of us
>             > > should look for partners and funds to be able to work
>         on the
>             > > software and also implementation of it. It is in the
>         interest of
>             > > funding partners to get a transparent system in place.
>         It saves
>             > > money more than they invest in it, and it saves it
>         quickly.
>             > > Muhimbili hospital in Dar es Salam increased revenue
>         300% when they
>             > > computerized their system (they used commercial
>         software).
>             > >
>             > > Care2x is flexible and can run on one computer (we
>         have done it in
>             > > health center) and it can run in a hospital with
>         hunders of beds (I
>             > > am at the moment in a hospital like that using Care2x)
>         We are
>             > > planning now to have a very simple system in mobile
>         phones at very
>             > > basic level where there is no support, not even power
>         available. We
>             > > have been able to raise funds to make slow proggress
>         in difficult
>             > > setting. If it is possible here it is possible
>         anywhere else. But
>             > > not if everybody is working in their own small corner.
>         SO LETS MAKE
>             > > IT TOGETHER.
>             > >
>             > > Best Wishes
>             > > Mauri Niemi
>             > >
>             > >
>             > > -------------- Original message ---------------
>             > > Date sent: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:56:51 -0400
>             > > From:    Elpidio Latorilla
>         <elpidio.latori...@gmail.com>
>             > > To: care2002-developers <care2002-
>             > > develop...@lists.sourceforge.net>
>             > > Subject:  [Care2002-developers] Domain names and
>         future of care2x
>             > > Send reply
>         to:   care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
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>             > > requ...@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe>
>             > >   <mailto:care2002-developers-
>             > > requ...@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe>
>             > >
>             > >
>             > > Hello all,
>             > >
>             > > thanks to all who expressed interest in taking over
>         the ownership of
>             > > care2x domains.
>             > >
>             > > I owe you all an explanation for the recent changes. I
>         have not done
>             > > any development work on this project in the last few
>         years and I
>             > > don't see me working on it in the coming years.
>         Because of that I
>             > > have decided to retire from the Care2x project. I will
>         still be
>             > > listening to the list and other communication lines of
>         the project
>             > > but I will not be active anymore.
>             > >
>             > > Furthermore, the project leadership will be
>         transferred to Mauri
>             > > Niemi. He is a doctor working for missionary hospitals
>         in Tanzania.
>             > > Mauri has been with the project since its beginning in
>         2002 and has
>             > > been active in the development of the tanzanian
>         version. In fact,
>             > > their Care2x version is one of the most successful
>         application of
>             > > the project. I believe that Mauri will be the right
>         project leader.
>             > > He already agreed to take over the task.
>             > >
>             > > The domain names will be transferred to Mauri Niemi.
>         The hosting and
>             > > maintenance of the websites and other technical tasks
>         will be done
>             > > by Gjergj and Robert Meggle.
>             > >
>             > > Please excuse any disruptions during the transition
>         phase.
>             > >
>             > > Thank you.
>             > >
>             > > Elpidio
>             > >
>             > >
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