I have my own fork of mlib_devel (https://github.com/mstrader/mlib_devel),
which is nearly identical to the current ska-sa repo.

Thanks,
Matt

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Andrew Martens <and...@ska.ac.za> wrote:

> I played around with ROACH2 QDR calibration a few months ago and the
> following must be noted;
>
> The physical trace length between FPGA and QDR SRAM is a fixed length.
> This fixed length equates to a different number of clock cycles, depending
> on clock speed.
> The interfacing firmware assumes a fixed number of clock cycles latency.
> The calibration routine thus only works for a certain range of clock
> speeds.
>
> In your case it looks like (at least) one of the interfaces is writing (or
> reading) incorrectly, but is compensating by inserting or removing a
> multiple of half a clock cycle of delay when reading (or writing). When
> reading/writing via the other interface, a different number of compensating
> half clock cycles is inserted.
>
> Which repo are you using?
>
> Regards
> Andrew
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:15 AM, David George <dgeorges...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> A small chip-in - QDR doesn't work below 120 MHz:
>> http://www.cypress.com/?id=4&rID=31542
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On 10 March 2015 at 22:17, Matt Strader <mstra...@physics.ucsb.edu>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Jack,
>> >
>> > Thanks for your reply.  I think I understand better what's going on.  I
>> was
>> > thinking in terms of 64-bit words that get written or read each cycle,
>> but
>> > looking in qdr_cal(), I should probably think of two 32-bit words read
>> or
>> > written each cycle.  Then, perhaps I shouldn't be too surprised if the
>> order
>> > of the two words read out doesn't match my intuition.
>> >
>> > Initially, I was compiling at 100 MHz, but the qdr_cal always failed.
>> Then
>> > I tried 200 and 250 MHz, and the qdr_cal succeeds.
>> >
>> > My tests go like this.  For the 200 MHz design,
>> > I call qdr_cal, and it returns True.
>> >
>> > Then I write this sequence of 64-bit values via the CPU:
>> > [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ..., , 1048574, 1048575]
>> >
>> > I read back the sequence from the CPU, and it agrees.
>> > [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ..., , 1048574, 1048575]
>> >
>> > I read it in fabric and get
>> > [1048575<<32, 0<<32, 1<<32, 2<<32, 3<<32, 4<<32, ..., 1048574<<32, ]
>> >
>> >
>> > Then I try the other direction, by writing a sequence of 64-bit values
>> in
>> > fabric:
>> > [0,1,2,3,4,5, ... , 1048574, 1048575]
>> >
>> > I read back the sequence in fabric and it agrees:
>> > [0,1,2,3,4,5, ... , 1048574, 1048575]
>> >
>> > I read it via the CPU:
>> >     nBytesPerSample=8
>> >     struct.unpack('>{}Q'.format(nSamples),
>> > roach.read('qdr0_memory',nSamples*nBytesPerSample))
>> > and get:
>> > [1<<32, 2<<32, 3<<32, 4<<32, 5<<32, ..., 1048575<<32, 0<<32]
>> >
>> > So reading and writing only by the CPU is consistent, and reading and
>> > writing only in fabric is consistent, but when I do one by the CPU and
>> the
>> > other in fabric, the two 32 bit words get swapped, and the sequence is
>> > offset by one value.  I actually see the same offset in a Roach1
>> version of
>> > the design as well.  It all seems consistent, not intermittent.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Matt
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Jack Hickish <jackhick...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Matt,
>> >>
>> >> The qdr_cal routine calibrates the relationship of clock and data
>> signals
>> >> in the link between the FPGA and QDR signals. Basically it writes test
>> >> patterns and reads them back looking for glitches. It then changes the
>> delay
>> >> of IODELAY blocks so that data read from the QDR is captured reliably.
>> >> If this calibration script runs successfully, I'm surprised you still
>> see
>> >> glitches with 32 bits of data swapped between read and write (both from
>> >> PPC). This would (surely?) count as a glitch and cause the calibration
>> >> routine to fail(?). Do you only see strange behaviour when you read
>> from the
>> >> FPGA fabric, or do straight write/reads from the CPU also misbehave?
>> Is the
>> >> behaviour the same on every read / write (i.e., not intermittent)?
>> >>
>> >> My experience with the QDR is that at high clock speeds (not sure how
>> >> high, but I see this at 312 MHz) the read latency of the QDR interface
>> isn't
>> >> 10 clock cycles as it should be even with the minimum IODELAY
>> configuration,
>> >> and there are no reliable qdr_cal solutions. I solved this problem for
>> my
>> >> design by removing half a clock cycle latency from the interface, at
>> which
>> >> point the QDR would calibrate ok. What speed are you running your
>> design at?
>> >> To me, misordered 32-bit chunks of data sounds indicative of a latency
>> >> problem in the qdr_cal solution, since the interface is 32 bit DDR, so
>> half
>> >> a clock cycle mangles 32-bit chunks of data.
>> >>
>> >> Good luck!
>> >>
>> >> Jack
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 at 23:54 Matt Strader <mstra...@physics.ucsb.edu>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi all,
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm trying to use QDR on Roach2.  I have a test design where I write
>> to
>> >>> QDR either in firmware or with katcp, then read it out in the
>> firmware and
>> >>> check the results with snapshot blocks.  It mostly works, but with
>> some
>> >>> interesting quirks.
>> >>>
>> >>> I know that katcp can only write 64 bits of the 72 bit QDR word, so I
>> >>> changed the bitbasher blocks in qdr_mask.m to move the inaccessible
>> bits out
>> >>> of the way to the most significant bits.  Now everything seems to
>> work well,
>> >>> except that in some builds (seems to depend on clock rate?), the
>> first 32
>> >>> bits (of the 64 bits I'm writing in a cycle) get swapped with the
>> last 32
>> >>> bits sometime between writing the word and reading it back.  And
>> there is a
>> >>> sometimes a difference in whether I am writing in firmware or by
>> katcp to
>> >>> whether this swap happens.
>> >>>
>> >>> Also, when I write with katcp starting at address zero, I find that
>> when
>> >>> reading out, the write started at what seems to be address 1.  Is the
>> >>> latency of QDR set to 10 cycles?
>> >>>
>> >>> I can live with all this, as long as it is repeatable for a given
>> design,
>> >>> but I thought I'd ask if anyone knows what is causing these quirks.
>> >>>
>> >>> Also, I understand that we should run a software calibration for qdr,
>> >>> which seems to be qdr_cal() in qdr.py in the ska-sa:casperfpga repo.
>> So, I
>> >>> run this first, which seems to work for my latest compiles, but I
>> haven't
>> >>> noticed a difference in the results.  What exactly does this
>> calibration do?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Matt Strader
>> >>> UC Santa Barbara
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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