Wayne thank you it does help. LLBLGEN is one of the most commonly
praised ORMs, and I'd be curious to hear why you've moved to AR/NH? As
you say, tradeoffs on both sides, but I'd be curious to hear your
thoughts.

Frankly I think we could use as much hand holding as possible. But the
Active Record examples are pretty straightforward. I am not sure how
versed in NHibernate we would need to become, that's a concern.

Has anyone here checked out Entity Framework?

I can see ORMs being a huge aid. We just never got exposure...so it's
more of a learning curve thing. We're effecient at what we do now, and
starting from zilch on a new stack is always a time drain at the
start.

We're so new to flex that I'm afraid I can't offer you too much on
that. .Net and flex seem to go well together.

On Apr 7, 2:10 am, Wayne Douglas <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hey
>
> First comment:
>
> >So far we've been able to keep clear of ORMs
>
> You make it sound like you've been trying to stay away from ORMs!!! ORM
> isn't a bad thing you need to stear clear of! Honestly :)
>
> Second:
>
> I come from an LLBLGEN background and have recently switched to AR/NH - to
> be honest - they both have their pros and cons but are both a million miles
> better than writting your own code for the purpose. They will both work with
> whatever .NET/CLI language you want. AR is about as simple as you'd want it
> and the only downer about everything being in C# is that if your guys aren't
> used to C# they may find some of the examples a bit foreign.
>
> As a side - what's the workflow like working with flex in a .net
> environment? I've thought about this doing a few times.
>
> hth
>
> w://
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 8:31 PM, novnov <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > This is really a scattershot question because I have little exposure
> > to ORMs and only vaguely formulated requirements.
>
> > Some background...I like postgresql a lot and also use sql server and
> > oracle. I/we are usually responsible for all of the parts of an app,
> > from the rdbms to the user interface. We do a lot on Windows with .net
> > (visual basic) but are getting exposure to flex on the interface side
> > of things. So far we've been able to keep clear of ORMs and code
> > generators.
>
> > A project is coming up which will need be be deployed against both
> > postgresql and oracle (different deploys). This may be forcing us to
> > use an ORM so that the interface is more independent of the rdbms.
>
> > Is NHibernate and maybe Castle Project Active Record a good solution
> > for our needs? The ORM would not have to be open source, ie we could
> > buy something. We want it to be as simple to pick up and use as
> > possible. We don't want to lose the ability to execute procs in
> > postgres and I'm worried that nhibernate has that limitation, as the
> > front page states that stored procedures are supported for sql server.
>
> > Finally, is Active Record ok with visual basic? Most if not all of the
> > examples are in C#.
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
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