Rudy,
   
  Seeing Lance's message reminded me about our exchanges.  Can't remember if I 
said thank you or not.  So if not, Thanks Much!  
   
  Mike
  Katie Bay-B

Lance Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
          Howdy all! Hope you're having a great 4th o' July weekend.
  My boat has the standard, factory installed adjustable split back stay. One 
wire stay to each corner and the pulley system pinned in the middle of the 
transom. It works well; but, makes it hard to use the ladder which is right up 
the middle of the transom. Has anyone ever used a different type system that 
allows the center to be free? I have a system on my Capri 25 and on my C-22s 
that worked well with the adjustable portion being a series of blocks on one 
end and the line running through a block on the main back stay and going down 
to the other corner of the transom.
   
  Lance Jones
Cruising Captain, Barefoot Sailing Club
Catalina 27TR SN 5455 Gaelforce!
Capri 25 SN 411 Scottish Rebel! 

    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rudolph S. Behar 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 5:43 AM
  Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Stay tension
  

Mike,

Here they are, hopefully accurate this time.  Last time I goofed the recopying. 
 Of course, Loos Gauge Model A is used for the 5/32nds lowers, and Model B for 
the uppers and forsestay and back stay.

Uppers:  Loos B 640
Aft lowers Loos A 350
Forward Lowers A 350

Forestay  Loos B 440 with backstay adjuster off.  750 with adjuster full on.

Backstay with adjuster off   Loos B 380

These are markedly tighter than the mean of the figures for the four boats, but 
still well under the highest settings used by one of the boats.  These settings 
give me no sag  in 20 kt and, if I remember correctly, in even more.

Depends on what wants, I guess.  John's setting is very loose, and his is the 
boat to beat in our races.  But some, as is obvious, prefer a tight rig.

The forestay and backstay settings are experimentally arrived at, and from 
measuring a couple of local boats:

I'm told that these figures vary according to what different sailmakers 
recommend.

I have the gauges and will be glad to go to any local boat that wants to use 
them.

Rudy B.
Phoenix, #2237
Pasadena, MD



Michael Munn wrote:
    Rudy,
   
  I'd like to see your revised numbers.  
   
  Thanks for offering.
   
  Mike
  Katie Bay-B
  Benicia, CA

"Rudolph S. Behar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  All, 

I recived this scale from this source a couple of years ago and used the median 
settings on my boat.  They were satisfactory up to 15 knots and then started to 
show lee shroud sag.  I pumped up the tension to where I showed no sag beating  
in 20Kt(whitecaps all over), but I don't remember the setting as I am here at 
the computer.  It's on the boat.  I'll get it if anyone wants it.

And, yes, I promised photos of  my cabin trunk gear in place.  Today.

Rudy B.

Chris Maddox wrote:
  
Also at http://www.ariasails.com/c27rigtension.xls    Chris    -----Original 
Message-----    
  
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Sent: Jun 20, 2007 10:22 AM  To: 
[email protected]  Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Stay tension    
Try this link for the spreadsheet, also in html format  
http://users.vnet.net/nliner/c27/docs.html        ---------Included 
Message----------      
  
Date:   20-Jun-2007 09:18:40 -0400  From: "Lance Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
Reply-To: <[email protected]>  To: 
<[email protected]>  Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Stay tension  
  Thanks, however, there was no attachment.    Lance Jones  Cruising Captain, 
Barefoot Sailing Club  Catalina 27TR SN 5455 Gaelforce!  Capri 25 SN 411 
Scottish Rebel! (AKA InstiGATOR)     ----- Original Message -----    From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]    To: [email protected]    Sent: Tuesday, 
June 19, 2007 11:51 PM   Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Stay tension         
Lance -     I am pretty sure that was put together by Carl Schaefer a few       
 

years back and ALL the boats on that list are racing boats and  they require 
mast rake from the adjustable backstay.      
  
 I am very surprised that Hi Tide's tensions are as high as shown.     Please 
set up your boats (I assume by your title that you are        

setting the boats up to cruise) tighter than the attached.        
  
 Chris D   toy box    eastport, md            
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