Who says I'm not happy? Who says I'm liberal? Who says I am an Obama
supporter? None of the above is particularly accurate. I just don't like the
dirty tricks. 

Yes, if you want to see some real fun, just invite me to your Christmas
party. Lighten up yourself, chief!

--Dave S.




On 11/28/07 6:53 PM, "Patrick R Ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Look Dave,
> The damn thing was sent to me and I was ( I thought ) deleting it.
> I said I'm SORRY !  Take a happy pill  or a drink or something.
> Get a grip. I bet your a real bunch of fun at Christmas time
> The end
> Pat
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Shugarts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 5:20 PM
> Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Obama picture
> 
> 
> 
> http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/blog/2007/11/obama_responds_to
> _flag_photo.html
> 
> 
> Obama responds to flag photo
> 
> by John McCormick
> 
> MUSCATINE, Iowa ­ The photo continues to circulate on the Internet and a
> voter here this afternoon asked Sen. Barack Obama to explain why he did not
> have his hand over his heart in front of a giant American flag when the
> other candidates standing next to him did.
> 
> Calling the viral e-mail a "classic dirty trick," the Illinois Democrat told
> his supporters to correct the record and that the image is not what it
> appears to be.
> 
> "This is just so irritating," Obama responded. "This was not the Pledge of
> Allegiance. This woman was singing the Star Spangled Banner. Now, I was
> taught by my grandfather that you put your hands over your heart during the
> Pledge of Allegiance. The Star Spangled Banner, you sing. So that's what I
> did."
> 
> The photo was taken this summer at Sen. Tom Harkin's annual steak fry in
> Indianola, Iowa.
> 
> "These aren't the only e-mails that are going out," Obama said. "You've got
> e-mails saying that I'm a Muslim plant that's trying to take over America
> and this and that and the other."
> 
> Obama, speaking to about 350 people in the gymnasium of a community center,
> advised a polite response to those sending around the message.
> 
> "If you get this e-mail from someone you know, set the record straight," he
> said. "You don't have to curse them out, just tell them that they are
> misinformed."
> 
> [story continues about other topics]
> 
> 
> On 11/28/07 5:54 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I dont have a dog in this fight as I reject the advances of both the
>> Stupid Party AND
>> the Evil Party, but as far as Obama is concerned, the picture is "real" in
>> that it
>> has not been Photoshopped®. Unless you believe the NYT is wedded to
>> knowingly
>> publishing Photoshopped® images....
>> 
>> If you DO believe the NYT is cavalier about publishing
>> "doctered" images, I can cite you some cases whereby staff and
>> wire-service photographers have been fired for doing exactly that. They
>> take photographic authenticity VERY seriously
>> at The Times.
>> 
>> Furthermore, it's pretty difficult for an amateur to "doctor" a video, at
>> least to the extent
>> the one on Snopes.com would need to be "doctored."
>> 
>> So, while Patrick can be chided for accidently spamming the list with a
>> photo with content that some find objectionable, he cannot be criticized
>> for sending out a FAKE photograph
>> or as someone suggested, perpetuating a lie, as for better or worse, the
>> photo has not been altered....it is authentic. This is the rare case in
>> which the people who are spreading the
>> rumor the photo is FAKE...are actually...dare I say it..........lying.
>> 
>> yours in solidarity,
>> 
>> --tf
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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