I've got a 76 Catalina 27 and an 81 Hunter 27 and I'd have to admit I like the 
Hunter better,  but I'm not a racer.  The wife will actually go out with me on 
the Hunter.  I brought the Hunter down to Oriental, NC from Arnold , MD last 
November, 8 days and it is much more comfortable than the Catalina. I'm 6'2, 
220 and can actually sleep in the V-berth and on either settee. The head is so 
much more user friendly, and has privacy. The deck is probably 1.5 times as 
thick and has no thru bolts. Opening ports and an actual nav station. The 
inboard diesel is a breeze to work on.  I'm not to wild about the main sheet 
arrangement or the fact that the mast uses pop rivets and not bolts.

Only surfed up to 9.2 knots once, got caught in gusts up to 33 knots on 
Currituck Sound coming into Coinjock, NC. The boat was heeling with no sails up 
and I was praying the motor wouldn't die. Only lasted a couple of hours but I 
was glad when it was over.

I've got the Catalina up for sale.

Michael
htttp://www.boatbumz.com
1976 Catalina 27 "Liberty"
1976 Catalina 22 "Sailamander"
1981 Hunter 27 "Why Knot II" soon to be "Gypsy"

----- Original Message ----
From: Ross Aresco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:24:09 PM
Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Advice for a potential C27 buyer

Thanks to all who responded - what a welcoming group!  To offer a stranger 
access to one's boat like a couple of you have is something that I can only 
hope to pay forward at some point in the future.  As of now I'm lining up a few 
different boats to go look at with my wife - including a C27, a Hunter 28.5, 
and an S2 9.2A.  No C30s for sale in the area at this point that either have 
the options/are in the condition that I'm looking for or are in my price range.
   
  I certainly have learned a few things to add to the list of "to-do" items 
while evaluating a boat and once it gets down to it getting a survey done by a 
skilled surveyor will be paramount.  If only my money tree would start bearing 
fruit...
   
  Thanks again for the help with such a significant purchase!
  Ross
   
  Oh - and for Dave specifically - GO SOX!  (native New Englander,
 ex-Bostonion here...)
  

DaveBreski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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1.25in;}div.Section1   {}-->      I had a 27 for a number of years – it was a 
great boat, I single handed it a lot and camped out on board by myself 
frequently.  For me as a solo sailor it was great – as a long term stay on 
board boat it was lacking.  Even at my meager 5’ 8 180 lbs I was cramped –
 never used the v-berth because it was too uncomfortable and a pita to get in 
and out of.   I put a lot of effort and new engine it only to end up selling it 
last fall after the SO and I spent a week long cruise on board.   Now I’m 
looking for something in the 30’s – that’s comfortable enough for 2 to spend a 
lot of time on board.   Don’t get me wrong it’s a great sailing boat and 
generally good value for the money – but unless you like camping in a small 
tent – and since you like the 30 I’d think about finding a 30 – you really 
don’t want the wife being disappointed -  
    
    Dave
  Cape Cod, MA
    

        
  From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Russ Dearmore
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 1:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Advice for a potential C27 buyer

    
    Ross,   I'm only 5'9" and 195 and although I love my 27' I am really weary 
of the bending and twisting involved with any activities done below.  I'd ask
 myself how much time I would spend single handing the boat.  If you would 
usually have someone to help crew (wife?)  then I'd enthusiastically recommend 
the 30.  The 27' inboard is very difficult to work on.  Slide into the port 
side cockpit locker and see if you have a prayer of a chance to inspect the 
transmission fluid.  Every time I get in there I spend 2 days of bed rest 
because of a back operation.  Sleeping is not comfortable to me but again it 
may be due to the back.  

         In short,  I'd get a very used 30' and improve it as budget restraints 
allow.  It will be much more enjoyable for the wife (extremely important, I 
can't emphasize this critical point enough) and your enjoyment will be enhanced 
 also.  It's amazing what
 some fiberglass work and paint will do to make a tired looking boat look 
nearly new......

         As Ralph so accurately pointed out the head routine is not to be 
underestimated.  The 30 is basically just a more enjoyable boat.  Put your 
money in improvements on the right size boat so as not to lose the work you put 
into your first boat.  It's sad to see all that labor and money go to the next 
owners wallet.  Bargains are out there so just be patient.  

         Hope I haven't angered to many 27 lovers because for it's size, it's 
the best........    

Ross Aresco
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

      Hi All,

     

    I'd appreciate some advice here.  I've been researching diligently for the 
best first boat for my wife and me (no kids just yet) and have had my heart set 
for a while on a C30.  However, with trying to save up for starting a family, 
etc.
 I'm thinking that it may be the best decision financially to start with a more 
typical (and cheaper) "starter boat" and then move up in a few years, versus 
spending at least $10-20K more for a C30 and moving right to the boat that we 
could grow into.  Yes, I know that if you amortize that over a number of years 
it doesn't add up to much, but it does right now.

     

    How do you like your C27s?  I've never sailed one - but they're clearly 
super popular and can handle a variety of conditions.  For the same 
accoutrements that we'd like (newer sail inventory, well maintained engine, 
pressure hot/cold water, generally well maintained boat) you can land a C27 for 
so much less than
 a C30, I'm thinking that this makes more and more sense.

     

     Part of my apprehension, however, is that I'm 6'3" 260lbs and I'm a bit 
worried about feeling like Will Ferrell in Elf while onboard!  We're in Erie, 
PA so we'd ideally like to do a lot of day/evening sailing, some weekly club 
racing and ideally do some weekend trips west past Cleveland and north to 
Canada.

     

    Thanks in advance for any help you can
 offer!

     

    ~Ross

     

     

     

  


Change your thinking, change your life. We are guided, we are guarded, we are 
healed, we are blessed.....








      
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