Hi all,

Although this discussion has gone on for awhile and is in danger of getting too 
heated for this List, I feel compelled to jump in. I want to thank those who 
brought scientific experience and reasoning to the debate, and especially to 
Lee Ann for the links to deeper discussion and actual studies on this topic. 
Bottom line is that the scientific evidence (sparse as it is) does not support 
the often strongly negative views that some birders have towards the use of 
playback to lure birds into view or get them to pose for photographs. As with 
most ethical questions, then, this issue comes down to people's personal 
opinions and choices. So here is my (hopefully somewhat professional and 
reasoned) personal opinion:

I have been a professional ornithologist for 35 years and have spent much of 
the past 15 years trying to help conserve threatened and declining bird 
populations; I am also a lifelong birder, bird-tour leader and teacher. I have 
used playback in a wide variety of situations ranging from scientific protocols 
to purely recreational -- I frequently use an owl-mobbing playback during 
birding, in order to get a more thorough count of the species in a given area.

I am not aware of any situation in which a population of birds was adversely 
affected by use of playback by birders or researchers. Even in the most famous 
and hotly debated cases (Arizona trogons) no effects on nesting success could 
be shown, and after 40+ years of using playback and imitating calls (the same 
thing really) in many Arizona canyons, none of the highly sought species have 
disappeared from those areas -- in fact most have expanded their distribution 
and populations in the general region. I know of many, many cases where bird 
tour leaders at tropical locations return year after year to the same "rare" 
bird territories, using playback successfully to show these amazing birds to 
successive groups of people. The primary negative effect of "excessive" use of 
playback (certainly a subjective term) is that the birds quickly habituate to 
the sound and stop responding -- very often a bird continues to sing on its 
territory but simply does not respond to the playback (guides use the 
expression "taped out" to describe such birds). Even around here I have found 
that chickadees will not respond to the owl-mobbing playback if I go to the 
same area within a short timeframe. In my experience the adverse effects of 
excessive playback is mostly on the birders and not on the birds. In certain 
locations, such as the tropical lodge discussed in the posts at Lee Ann's link, 
or South Fork of Cave Creek Canyon, guidelines for regulating use of playback 
(but not banning) might be necessary -- but again, mostly to preserve the 
experiences of other birders.

I think the ABA Code of Birder Ethics has this issue well covered, and Sibley's 
guidelines are very sensible and even offer tips for improving the 
effectiveness of playback while birding. And John Confer -- among the most 
cautious and respectful bird people I have known -- summarized well the 
biological perspective – that even regular (daily) use of playback, even during 
the breeding season (not to mention the subsequent capture, handling, and 
blood-sampling of individual birds), had minimal if any effect on breeding 
success or population status. Certainly compared with virtually every other 
form of anthropogenic disturbance or threat to habitats that birds face 
everywhere and all the time, the use of playback by birders, from a 
conservation perspective, is simply a non-issue.

If one's personal birding ethics do not include playback or pishing because of 
the perceived temporary stress to individual birds, that is fine, but please 
don't question the integrity of other birders or SFO leaders that choose to use 
these tools to enhance the birding experience.

KEN


Ken Rosenberg
Conservation Science Program
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
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On Apr 8, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Lee Ann van Leer wrote:

I've heard this debated by many birders at many levels.  Many pros and cons 
have been argued. It is worthy of more research in to what if any negative or 
positive impact playback  has on individual birds, bird populations, bird 
conservation & funding.  Ecotourism in general has pros and cons but 
researchers  have to be willing to do the research to find out  what human 
impacts have on wildlife.

Certainly one should adhere to some kind of guidelines regarding playback.  I'm 
including links to several articles that outline this debate and propose such 
guidelines.

I know playback has been used as a teaching tool for decades. Mobbing & 
chickadee tapes in addition to a stuffed owl were used on most of the graduate 
level Ornithology (in North Carolina) field trips when I was a student in 1990. 
Instructors usually give playback  guidelines.

As far as SFO (Spring Field Ornithology) playback is used very infrequently. 
Most field trips it is used not at all and the times it is used averages 
perhaps just a couple minutes total per trip. So fear not, playback used very 
conservatively in SFO in my opinion as a former student.  I  attended every SFO 
trip possible from 2008-2011 including all the full weekend trips.

I'm glad someone reminds us all to be mindful about playback. I consider myself 
a moderate on the issue as I see definite pros and potential cons for the 
birds. Looking forward to research that gives us more answers.  I'd be willing 
to help conduct any such research if anyone is brave enough to want to find out 
the truth and there were funders. :-) Surely someone must be working on this 
already?

http://10000birds.com/playback-of-bird-calls-benefits-some-birds.htm

http://www.sibleyguides.com/2011/04/the-proper-use-of-playback-in-birding/

http://www.science.uwaterloo.ca/~smithsm/Impact%20of%20Playback%20on%20Birds.pdf


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