I understand that cc:Work and cc:License are separate, I'm really asking
how they relate to each others. Apologies for taking shortcuts in the
notation.

My interpretation was that if a cc:Work linked to a cc:License with
cc:require cc:Attribution, that put a very specific meaning on the
properties of the cc:Work. It appears from the responses here that that
isn't true.

Is this closer to the intention of ccREL:

1) A tool can only use the properties of a cc:License to provide general
information to a user, e.g. "this work requires attribution, for details on
what this means follow the link to the license".  I.e. the tool can't
discern between one of the standard CC licenses or another license with
attribution requirements that are slightly different since cc:Attribution
could apply to both.

2) Even so, when a tool encounters cc:Work properties, it can assume that
they should be used in an attribution along CC lines. If that turns out to
not be 100% legally correct, it is still much better than not attempting to
do any attribution.

3) If a tool want to provide more details, such as ensuring that the
cc:Work properties are used correctly in the attribution, the tool must
itself encode the requirements of a specific license URI.

4) If a tool want to compare licenses for equality, they have to use the
license URI.

Thanks for your patience with my questions,
  Peter


On 24 June 2013 23:36, Mike Linksvayer <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Jonas Öberg <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > here's a question from IRC which was left hanging. Wondering if anyone
> here
> > has any thoughts about it :)
> >
> > 09:14 <jonaso> Been looking at
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/372427 which uses ccREL
> cc:permits
> > and cc:requires to express licenses which are not CC licenses, ie., FAL.
> > They've coded FAL same as CC BY-SA
> > 09:14 <jonaso> I wonder if that's the intent: ns#Attribution has a
> specific
> > meaning in the CC vocabulary which is slightly different from FAL's
> > attribution requirement.
> > 09:15 <jonaso> So I wonder if we should think of ccREL ns#Attribution as
> > "requires some attribution, unspecified exactly how, what or when" or if
> > ns#Attribution should mean more exactly the terms of the CC licenses.
> > 09:16 <jonaso> In the latter case, I guess there should be a separate
> > vocabulary to express terms more closely to FAL and other licenses.
>
> This is separate from discussion about cc:attributionName/URL, which
> are work properties. cc:Attribution is a cc:Requirement which is in
> the range of cc:requires which has a domain of cc:License.
> cc:Attribution should be thought of as "requires some attribution,
> unspecified exactly how, what or when".
>
> The 2009(!) bug you cite is due to Inkscape apparently identifying
> license by its coarse requirements/prohibitions/permissions rather
> than by a canonical identifier for an individual license, as it
> should.
>
> Mike
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