Whether a queue exists or not is irrelevant.  We're talking purely about
transmission rates to not exceed a certain value.  So a peak rate is a do
not exceed value.  Whether traffic ARRIVED more than could be sent and is
waiting in a queue doesn't affect the tranmission speed which is what you
wanted to measure.
 
HTH,
 
Scott

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From: Derek Winchester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 6:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Shape vs Police question


Could you elaborate a little bit. I was under the impression that shape and
police functionality was very similar except that you queue via the shape
and you drop via the police. Now if you were to configure an action to shape
without the peak there is not burst beyond the cir but there will be queuing
just the same. If i do not configure the shape peak will it not take the cir
as the peak value by default. I could be wrong, what do you think Scott?


On 2/17/08, Scott Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

It's not the "normal" way of looking at it, but you could certainly use the
"shape peak" feature within MQC to achieve that goal.  While the main focus
is to shape, it will also provide a "do not exceed" value that serves kind
of as a limit!

HTH,


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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Winchester
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 6:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Shape vs Police question

Someone asked me a very good question yesterday and I am still confused if I
gave him the correct answer. He gave me a scenario that states that he has
to limit all IP Precedence 3 traffic out of an interface to 256k, but he
cannot use policing or rate-limiting. My answer was to use shaping. But from
my experience, doesn't the word "limit" negates that as a possible answer?
Even though you can use shaping to limit, I was always under the impression
when studying for the CCIE that if they use the word limit that means no
shaping. Can someone help ease my conscience?






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