It depends on what you buy from the SP. Sometimes you get routers (CE routers). Or you get some sort of link, serial for example and you have to configure the frame-relay stuff yourself.

I highly doubt you will see any 'new' frame-relay deployments in real- life and I would never configure a multipoint hub-n-spoke topology in real-life, just point-to-point stuff and the hub having tens to hundreds of sub-interfaces.

Like Joe said, don't ever try to use a CCIE lab as design for a real- life network :-P

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On 6 sep 2009, at 14:09, Ahmed Haji Munye wrote:



HI Joe

Is the Frame Switch configured by the Service Provider, and tthe hub and spokes confiugred by a Network Engineer?

Kind Regards
Ahmed

--- Den sön 2009-09-06 skrev Joe Astorino <[email protected]>:

Från: Joe Astorino <[email protected]>
Ämne: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] When configuring hub and spokes (Frame relay) in a production network
Till: "Ahmed Haji Munye" <[email protected]>
Kopia: "CC IE" <[email protected]>
Datum: söndag 6 september 2009 06.07

Not sure I fully understand the questions but:

1) In a lab environment you usually have a frame-relay switch that runs serial cables to your hub and spoke frame-relay routers. Where you put the DCE for serial clocking is entirely up to you, but it seems to make sense to me to put it on the frame switch. You also need to setup your frame switch to actually do frame-switching. In the "real world" I couldn't see running serial cables between your hub and spoke...I don't really get that. You would probably have your hub and spokes running into a service provider frame-relay cloud running on a T1 connection or something.

2) The labs we design are designed to help you pass the CCIE lab not for best design practices. Much of the frame-relay stuff you see in the CCIE lab, ESPECIALLY for OSPF is completely FUBAR and should not be used in production in most cases : ) Use your best judgement, but I would not be using a CCIE lab practice workbook for a guide on best practices : )

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Ahmed Haji Munye <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi

When configuring hub and spokes (Frame relay) in a production network (real world), do you also:

- use a router with 8 serial interface having all the DCE ends plugged on it and the DTE ends on the Hup and spokes?

- my other questions is, do you always use the same configs and commands as shown in detailed solution the labs ?

Kind Regards
Ahmed


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