Hey guys! @uli -- I am confident that if you pass the CCIE lab you will have NO issues in a real world environment, as you have WAY more than you need to be successful. I am just saying that typically we do things in teh CCIE lab that you probably will not see in the real world.
@Ahmed -- What I have seen typically is that you control the hub and spoke routers while the SP controls the frame cloud yes. But, you could also have something like a managed service where they control everything it all depends. With MPLS now, we are seeing more managed services. You could have an MPLS network but it could still very well be running over an SP frame-relay topology. So, it depends. On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Rick Mur <[email protected]> wrote: > It depends on what you buy from the SP. Sometimes you get routers (CE > routers).Or you get some sort of link, serial for example and you have to > configure the frame-relay stuff yourself. > > I highly doubt you will see any 'new' frame-relay deployments in real-life > and I would never configure a multipoint hub-n-spoke topology in real-life, > just point-to-point stuff and the hub having tens to hundreds of > sub-interfaces. > > Like Joe said, don't ever try to use a CCIE lab as design for a real-life > network :-P > > -- > Regards, > > Rick Mur > CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider) > Sr. Support Engineer – IPexpert, Inc. > URL: http://www.IPexpert.com > > On 6 sep 2009, at 14:09, Ahmed Haji Munye wrote: > > > > HI Joe > > Is the Frame Switch configured by the Service Provider, and tthe hub and > spokes confiugred by a Network Engineer? > > Kind Regards > Ahmed > > --- Den *sön 2009-09-06 skrev Joe Astorino <[email protected]>*: > > > Från: Joe Astorino <[email protected]> > Ämne: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] When configuring hub and spokes (Frame relay) in > a production network > Till: "Ahmed Haji Munye" <[email protected]> > Kopia: "CC IE" <[email protected]> > Datum: söndag 6 september 2009 06.07 > > Not sure I fully understand the questions but: > > 1) In a lab environment you usually have a frame-relay switch that runs > serial cables to your hub and spoke frame-relay routers. Where you put the > DCE for serial clocking is entirely up to you, but it seems to make sense to > me to put it on the frame switch. You also need to setup your frame switch > to actually do frame-switching. In the "real world" I couldn't see running > serial cables between your hub and spoke...I don't really get that. You > would probably have your hub and spokes running into a service provider > frame-relay cloud running on a T1 connection or something. > > 2) The labs we design are designed to help you pass the CCIE lab not for > best design practices. Much of the frame-relay stuff you see in the CCIE > lab, ESPECIALLY for OSPF is completely FUBAR and should not be used in > production in most cases : ) Use your best judgement, but I would not be > using a CCIE lab practice workbook for a guide on best practices : ) > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Ahmed Haji Munye > <[email protected]<http://se.mc246.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> >> Hi >> >> When configuring hub and spokes (Frame relay) in a production network >> (real world), do you also: >> >> - use a router with 8 serial interface having all the DCE ends plugged on >> it and the DTE ends on the Hup and spokes? >> >> - my other questions is, do you always use the same configs and commands >> as shown in detailed solution the labs ? >> >> Kind Regards >> Ahmed >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Går det långsamt? Skaffa dig en snabbare bredbandsuppkoppling. >> Sök och jämför priser hos >> Kelkoo.<http://www.kelkoo.se/c-100015813-bredband.html?partnerId=96914325> >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > > Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S > Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. > Cell: +1.586.212.6107 > Fax: +1.810.454.0130 > Mailto: > [email protected]<http://se.mc246.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > > ------------------------------ > Sök efter kärleken! > Hitta din tvillingsjäl på Yahoo! Dejting: > http://se..meetic.yahoo.net<http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;185753627;24584539;x?http://se.meetic.yahoo.net/index.php?mtcmk=148783> > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > > -- Regards, Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. Cell: +1.586.212.6107 Fax: +1.810.454.0130 Mailto: [email protected]
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