On Jun 21, 2011, at 11:32 PM, Marko Milivojevic wrote:

> Bits are actually: 128 64 32 16 8 4 2 1 (powers of 2, starting from
> 2^0 on the right).

Right we use these for normal subnets, but for wildcard masks the values are 
minus 1 correct?
> 
> The reason this doesn't work is that in this case, wildcard mask needs
> to be contiguous, i.e. the real inverse netmask. Netmask
> 253.255.255.255 is *not*:
> 
> 00000010.11111111.11111111.11111111 ===> 111111101.00000000.00000000.00000000
> 
So you're saying AutoRP doesn't support non contiguous wildcard masks? That 
seems odd, why does it support the wildcard mask in the first place then ?
It does explain what Joe was talking about though, thanks! Makes sense.

> AutoRP therefore has no idea what you have in mind and (I assume)
> finds the closest match, which in this case is 228.0.0.0/7. If you
> wanted to advertise both 228.0.0.0/7 and 230.0.0.0/7, you'd either
> need to lines in your ACL:
> 
> access-list 1 permit 228.0.0.0 1.255.255.255.255
> access-list 1 permit 230.0.0.0 1.255.255.255.255

What about just 228.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 and 230.0.0.0 0.255.255.255, this seems 
redundant ?(no offense)
> 
> or you'd need to advertise 228.0.0.0/6 using a single line ACL, like this:
> 
> access-list 1 permit 228.0.0.0 3.255.255.255.255
> 
> Inverted, 3.255.255.255 is 252.0.0.0, which is a correct mask.

This i still don't get sorry. Again is 00000010 not equal to .2 in wildcard 
speak ? or /6 in prefix notation? how does that become .3 ? is there simply no 
2 value at all, just 3? but i just want
228 and 230, i only flipped the second last bit on, now i get 4 networks ? i 
want 2.255.255.255, not 3.255.255.255

if i do
11100100.00000000.00000000.00000000 228.0.0.0
00000010.11111111.11111111.11111111 2.255.255.255
----------------------------------------------------------
11100110.11111111.11111111.11111111 230.255.255.255 or 228 OR 230 as the second 
last bit is a don't care bit

Am i mistaken? maybe i should just forget about these wildcard mask values, i 
understood it before (or so i think) :-)

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> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 18:12, Alef <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Ok maybe i haven't been proper with my question
>> This was in relation to lab 24.5, Vol1. Joe says in the video that normally 
>> a mask of 2.255.255.255 would work here, to encompass both networks, 
>> 228.0.0.0 and 230.0.0.0.
>> and that makes sense
>> 11100100.00000000.00000000.00000000 228.0.0.0
>> 00000010.00000000.00000000.00000000 2.255.255.255
>> 
>> so i would cover either 228 or 230 when i flip the second bit on. would this 
>> not be a /6 in a wildcard ?
>> 
>> It's just that now i went over these wildcard values i got slightly confused 
>> as if i followed these it would not be a 2 for that bit value, but a 1 (as 
>> per 127 63 31 15 7 3 1 0)
>> 
>> On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:21 PM, Marko Milivojevic wrote:
>> 
>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>> IP Entered = ..................: 228.0.0.0
>>> CIDR = ........................: /6
>>> Netmask = .....................: 252.0.0.0
>>> Netmask (hex) = ...............: 0xfc000000
>>> Wildcard Bits = ...............: 3.255.255.255
>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>> Network Address = .............: 228.0.0.0
>>> Broadcast Address = ...........: 231.255.255.255
>>> Usable IP Addresses = .........: 67,108,862
>>> First Usable IP Address = .....: 228.0.0.1
>>> Last Usable IP Address = ......: 231.255.255.254
>>> 
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>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 14:56, Alef <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>> I've got a bit of a specific question regarding wildcard mask values:
>>>> 
>>>> We write the multicast range 224-239 as a /4, using the 0 bits 127 63 31 
>>>> 15 and write it out as .15 or 15.255.255.255
>>>> 226 and 227 we would as a /7, using the first 7 0 bits and write it out as 
>>>> 1.255.255.255
>>>> 
>>>> If that's the case, how do we write out a /6 ? It seems it's .2 (only 
>>>> talking first octet here,just think the other 3 octets are 255.255.255 for 
>>>> now)
>>>> 
>>>> but if i follow the inverse values 127 63 31 15 7 3 1 0 should it not be 
>>>> written as .1 if i have 00000010 in the first octet?
>>>> 
>>>> slightly confused..
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