Gotcha. I too am working on my second IE (Securty), but I'm not an IPT guy. You 
may have a valid point- I can't speak G711, only G729. ;)

Regards,
Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
Sent from iJay

On May 18, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Ken Wyan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Jay,
> 
> I am from IPT background. Already completed CCIE Voice sometime back. Now
> working on 2nd CCIE
> 
> It's not my atttitude , but the truth after discussing with many people.
> When we try to convince customers to go for Cisco , sometimes vendors like
> Avaya are better than Cisco. Cisco always come with innovative technologies
> first & other competitors can't. But stability / bugs , etc.. are not well
> addressed in Cisco IPT compared to others. (As a partner we have to have
> more visits to customers & our managers are worried about this). I believe
> cisco doesn't pay enough attention to such things. Cisco support team (TAC)
> is somehow the best in Voice.
> 
> I think Cisco Routers are the best in the world. Nobody else can reach that
> level.
> 
> CCIE lab is too hard & that's why people try to use dumps (even IPX
> mock-labs were designed to cover questions very similar to actual
> lab otherwise IPX students can't clear CCIE) . If cisco can reduce the
> difficulty level & introduce a large question pool that would be nice &
> dump companies have to close then. I think it's going to happen as CCIE
> program managers mentioned.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Jay McMickle <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
>> Ken-
>> Wow- with that attitude, I would wonder why you would be pursuing such an
>> elite certification. Dumps alone will not get anyone to pass.
>> 
>> Oh, and keep in mind that Darby is bitter due to his multiple failed
>> attempts since 2002. Jus sayin'.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
>> Sent from iJay
>> 
>> On May 18, 2012, at 2:00 AM, Thomas Raabo - Zitcom A/S <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Even mr Cisco Russ White is no more.
>>> 
>>> Thomas
>>> 
>>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>>> Fra: [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] På vegne af Ken Wyan
>>> Sendt: 18. maj 2012 07:18
>>> Til: [email protected]
>>> Emne: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE how to pass the lab (light humour)
>>> 
>>> Thanks for sharing.
>>> 
>>> This is more or less what's hapenning everywhere. These type of
>> marketing guys dominate cisco also & those with good practical experience
>> slowly quit due to these jokers.
>>> 
>>> Finally , Cisco products are full of defects. Smallest bugs remain
>> unresolved for a series of releases.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Tony Singh <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This article is good humour, enjoy
>>>> 
>>>> http://ccieflyer.com/2010-02-Darby-Weaver-Achilles-Heel.php
>>>> 
>>>> BR
>>>> 
>>>> Tony
>>>> 
>>>> CCNP CCNA R&S JNCIS-SEC MCSE
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone on 3
>>>> 
>>>> On 17 May 2012, at 17:00, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> 
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>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. Re: ? (Adam Booth)
>>>>> 2. Re: Interworking in L2VPN (CCIE KID)
>>>>> 3. WB-1 LAB-17 TASK-17.3 (Ren? Huet)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> --
>>>>> 
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 06:46:35 +1000
>>>>> From: Adam Booth <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: "Bodnar, Edward" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] ?
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <CAKXsBmpn4KoO45ybp-3=pd31hmpsext-bw28_h1ck2l5ltc...@mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Edward,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Switch adds these via option 82 to the DHCP packet made by a
>>>>> DHCP client, so the DHCP server can make some decisions as to what
>>>>> to do with that user.  Generally Circuit-Id is used to identify the
>>>>> originating
>>>> switch
>>>>> and switch port that the customer is connected to, and the remote-id
>>>>> may
>>>> be
>>>>> a service id/customer id.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Depending on your context you could use the Circuit-Id/Remote-Id to
>>>> always
>>>>> allocate a specific IP address to a Switch port regardless as to
>>>>> what the mac address of the client device is.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In a situation where the network infrastructure owner is different
>>>>> to the service owner (e.g. a wholesale environment) the
>>>>> infrastructure owner may move ports associated with a customer
>>>>> around - so the wholesale operator
>>>> in
>>>>> a lot of instances is told to rely on using the remote-id and not
>>>>> the circuit-id to identify their client (but knowing the circuit-id
>>>>> may be useful if there is a fault)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Adam
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 4:25 AM, Bodnar, Edward <
>>>> [email protected]>wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can anybody provide some clarity around these commands.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ip dhcp snooping information option format-type ( circuit-id |
>>>> remote-id )
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Need info on what they do and why I would use them.
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 12:45:36 +0530
>>>>> From: CCIE KID <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: Mohammad Khalil <[email protected]>
>>>>> Cc: [email protected], [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Interworking in L2VPN
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <CAJuc+Q9ZzpE48kSd3YE=y2kshay5e5x9ovuhn9gykblhzhk...@mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Mohammad,
>>>>> 
>>>>> What are the parameters to match when u want to form a Targeted LDP
>>>>> peer between two PE's if u have two different VC Types in them.
>>>>> For example on one side u have Ethernet and on the other side u have
>> FR.
>>>>> What are the parameters to match on both the sides .
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Mohammad Khalil
>>>>> <[email protected]
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi , i did a similar setup using xconnect between EThernet and ATM
>>>>>> , please find below (note that TESTING1 is connected to PE1 through
>>>>>> NSP
>>>> and
>>>>>> TESTING2 is connected to PE2)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> TESTING1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> interface ATM0
>>>>>> description *** TEC-TEC2 ATM 5/7 *** no ip address no atm
>>>>>> ilmi-keepalive dsl operating-mode ansi-dmt end interface ATM0.1
>>>>>> point-to-point ip address 172.16.18.98 255.255.255.252 pvc 2/222
>>>>>> protocol ip 172.16.18.97 broadcast !
>>>>>> interface ATM0.2 point-to-point
>>>>>> ip address 10.10.10.2 255.255.255.252 pvc 30/30 protocol ip
>>>>>> 10.10.10.1 broadcast
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> TESTING2
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> interface FastEthernet0/0
>>>>>> no ip address
>>>>>> duplex full
>>>>>> speed 100
>>>>>> interface FastEthernet0/0.94
>>>>>> encapsulation dot1Q 94
>>>>>> ip address 10.10.10.2 255.255.255.252 !
>>>>>> interface FastEthernet0/0.99
>>>>>> encapsulation dot1Q 99
>>>>>> ip address 172.16.18.97 255.255.255.252
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> PE1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> interface GigabitEthernet2/1/0
>>>>>> mtu 1530
>>>>>> ip address 62.215.0.49 255.255.255.252 ip ospf network
>>>>>> point-to-point negotiation auto mpls ip end interface ATM2/0/0
>>>>>> description *** ATM STM-1 Link To 6400-TEC ( ATM3/1/0 ) *** no ip
>>>>>> address load-interval 30 no atm enable-ilmi-trap no atm
>>>>>> ilmi-keepalive pvc 0/5 qsaal !
>>>>>> pvc 0/16 ilmi
>>>>>> !
>>>>>> End
>>>>>> interface ATM2/0/0.2020 point-to-point no atm enable-ilmi-trap pvc
>>>>>> 12/195 l2transport encapsulation aal5snap xconnect 62.215.0.222 133
>>>>>> pw-class inter-ether
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> PE2
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> interface GigabitEthernet0/1
>>>>>> mtu 1530
>>>>>> ip address 62.215.0.50 255.255.255.252 ip ospf network
>>>>>> point-to-point media-type sfp speed auto duplex auto negotiation
>>>>>> auto mpls ip
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> interface GigabitEthernet0/3
>>>>>> mtu 4470
>>>>>> no ip address
>>>>>> media-type rj45
>>>>>> speed auto
>>>>>> duplex full
>>>>>> negotiation auto
>>>>>> end
>>>>>> interface GigabitEthernet0/3.99
>>>>>> encapsulation dot1Q 99
>>>>>> xconnect 62.215.0.194 133 pw-class inter-ether
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> PE2#sh xconnect all
>>>>>> Legend: XC ST=Xconnect State S1=Segment1 State S2=Segment2 State
>>>>>> UP=Up DN=Down AD=Admin Down IA=Inactive SB=Standby RV=Recovering
>>>>>> NH=No Hardware XC ST Segment 1 S1 Segment 2
>>>>>> S2
>>>>>> 
>>>> ------+---------------------------------+--+--------------------------
>>>> ------+---------------------------------+--+---
>>>>>> ----+--
>>>>>> UP ac Gi0/3.99:99(Eth VLAN) UP mpls 62.215.0.194:133 UP
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> PE2#sh xconnect peer 62.215.0.194 all detail Core network division
>>>>>> Xconnect test
>>>>>> Distribution: Confidential Page 5
>>>>>> Legend: XC ST=Xconnect State S1=Segment1 State S2=Segment2 State
>>>>>> UP=Up DN=Down AD=Admin Down IA=Inactive SB=Standby RV=Recovering
>>>>>> NH=No Hardware XC ST Segment 1 S1 Segment 2
>>>>>> S2
>>>>>> 
>>>> ------+---------------------------------+--+--------------------------
>>>> ------+---------------------------------+--+---
>>>>>> ----+--
>>>>>> UP ac Gi0/3.99:99(Eth VLAN) UP mpls 62.215.0.194:133 UP
>>>>>> Interworking: ip Local VC label 276 Remote VC label 3090
>>>>>> pw-class: inter-ether
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> TEC-TEST#sh mpls l2transport binding 133 Destination Address:
>>>>>> 62.215.0.194, VC ID: 133 Local Label: 276
>>>>>> Cbit: 1, VC Type: IP, GroupID: 0
>>>>>> MTU: 4470, Interface Desc: n/a
>>>>>> VCCV: CC Type: CW [1], RA [2]
>>>>>> CV Type: LSPV [2]
>>>>>> Remote Label: 3090
>>>>>> Cbit: 1, VC Type: IP, GroupID: 0
>>>>>> MTU: 4470, Interface Desc: n/a
>>>>>> VCCV: CC Type: RA [2]
>>>>>> CV Type: LSPV [2]
>>>>>> TEC-TEST#sh mpls l2transport vc 133 detail Local interface:
>>>>>> Gi0/3.99 up, line protocol up, Eth VLAN 99 up MPLS VC type is Eth
>>>>>> VLAN, interworking type is IP Destination address: 62.215.0.194, VC
>>>>>> ID: 133, VC status: up Output interface: Gi0/1, imposed label stack
>>>>>> {3090} Preferred path: not configured Default path: active Next
>>>>>> hop: 62.215.0.49 Create time: 03:55:11, last status change time:
>>>>>> 03:55:11 Signaling protocol: LDP, peer 62.215.0.194:0 up Targeted
>>>>>> Hello: 62.215.0.222(LDP Id) -> 62.215.0.194 Status TLV support
>>>>>> (local/remote) : enabled/supported Label/status state machine :
>>>>>> established, LruRru Last local dataplane status rcvd: no fault Last
>>>>>> local SSS circuit status rcvd: no fault Last local SSS circuit
>>>>>> status sent: no fault Last local LDP TLV status sent: no fault Last
>>>>>> remote LDP TLV status rcvd: no fault MPLS VC labels: local 276,
>>>>>> remote 3090 Group ID: local 0, remote 0
>>>>>> MTU: local 4470, remote 4470
>>>>>> Remote interface description:
>>>>>> Sequencing: receive disabled, send disabled VC statistics:
>>>>>> packet totals: receive 1034, send 1034 byte totals: receive
>>>>>> 1066540, send 1089288 packet drops: receive 0, seq error 0, send 0
>>>>>> Core network division Xconnect test
>>>>>> Distribution: Confidential Page 6
>>>>>> PING
>>>>>> TESTING2#ping 172.16.18.98 repeat 1000 size 1500 Type escape
>>>>>> sequence to abort.
>>>>>> Sending 1000, 1500-byte ICMP Echos to 172.16.18.98, timeout is 2
>>>> seconds:
>>>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>> Success rate is 100 percent (1000/1000), round-trip min/avg/max =
>>>>>> 40/43/60 ms
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> BR,
>>>>>> Mohammad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 14:53:17 +0530
>>>>>>> Subject: Interworking in L2VPN
>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have a scenario where my Frame-Relay to Ethernet interworking is
>>>>>>> not working properly. Can someone tell me what are all the
>>>>>>> parameters to
>>>>>> match
>>>>>>> when forming a T-LDP Pseudowire to be established between Ethernet
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>> side
>>>>>>> of pseudowire and Frame Relay on the other side of Pseudowire.
>>>>>>> I know that there are certain parameters to match to make my
>>>>>>> Pseudowire T-LDP up The parameters are :
>>>>>>> 1.VC-ID
>>>>>>> 2.VC <http://2.vc/> <http://2.vc/> Type ( Port, VLAN, etc)
>> 3.Interface MTU (AC)
>>>>>>> 4. LDP password
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But when u have interworking configured on both sides , Ur VC Type
>>>>>>> wont be matched on both the sides. In this cases, how will my
>>>>>>> T-LDP session
>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> be up ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> How will the Control plane signaling happens when there is a
>>>>>>> different
>>>> VC
>>>>>>> types on both sides and i have configured my Interworking on both
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>> sides.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> How will the router signal the other end of the peer to know which
>>>>>>> VC
>>>>>> Type
>>>>>>> it is using and also the Interworking has been configured ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is the use of Control Word comes into picture here ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> With Warmest Regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> CCIE KID
>>>>>>> CCIE#29992 (Security)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> With Warmest Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> CCIE KID
>>>>> CCIE#29992 (Security)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>> Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 09:53:08 +0200
>>>>> From: Ren? Huet <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] WB-1 LAB-17 TASK-17.3
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <CADFAz+6e2xs2+a-=5E=6eJTxKM7nMUdxkyezaSyfQLkeSxVz=w...@mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the WB-1 LAB-17 TASK-17.3
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why we don't deny any 150.100.78.8
>>>>> what is the difference between deny any 150.100.78.8 or Network
>> address?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Normally if I deny any 150.100.78.8 (NVI) is ok no ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If anyone has an explanation I'm interested
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ren?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> End of CCIE_RS Digest, Vol 76, Issue 48
>>>>> ***************************************
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