Yes , I agree with you completely.

But if they give 8:15 timeslots , they can't fix time-slot starting times
as done now.




On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:02 AM, Tom Kacprzynski <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello,
> Since we are on the topic of time slots. Why are you given a 7:45 hours
> time slot, instead of a 8 hour slot, as the actual lab is 8 hours long.
> This leaves hardly any time to load your config, save them and review your
> lab.
>
> What would be a more customer focused product would give you full 8 hours
> of actual config time, with 15 minutes to get everything setup a total of
> 8:15. It does make a lot of more sense.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Lukasz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Wayne,
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the answers. I am glad and surprised to hear about work that
> > you Guys do on the new system. Looking forward to see the new
> proctorlabs.
> >
> >
> > Lukasz
> >
> >
> > On 2012-05-31 22:42, Wayne Lawson wrote:
> >
> >> Gang -
> >>
> >>     I have been able to review this thread and want to give all of
> >> you an update - our official response.
> >>
> >>     We have been in the process of entirely overhauling Proctor Labs
> >> for about 8 months. The code was written in an undesirable language,
> >> and it has essentially been an entire rewrite of the current solution
> >> as well as adding features and functionality - and things like the
> >> ability to reserve VMware racks, Juniper racks and racks that are set
> >> up with various Data Center components (hardware / software).
> >>
> >>     We also have been working on an enhanced support solution for
> >> products and vRacks - which will be rolled out at the same time the
> >> new Proctor Labs site is launched. As somebody mentioned, I understand
> >> that some people would like to see 4-hour timeslots, however - just as
> >> many people don't - therefore we have to either support both, or
> >> support the ability to allow you to link 4-hour sessions together. The
> >> problem with that - is that there may not be the ability to stay on
> >> the same rack if someone has the session before and after yours. Also,
> >> time zones come into play - when will a session start, and when will
> >> it end. I can guarantee that just as many people will be frustrated
> >> with the start and end times as will be content. In a nutshell, there
> >> are several things we've been working through to ensure that a
> >> majority of our customers are happy. At the moment, I can't give an
> >> exact date as to when this new Proctor Labs solution will be pushed
> >> live, just know that I am impatient and my web team knows this! ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >>     Also - addressing someone's comments suggesting that we don't
> >> fix product errors...that is not accurate. As product versions are
> >> released, known errors are fixed. Let's face it - I would love to
> >> commit to having a 100% error free product, but after running this
> >> company for over 12 years, I've come to realize that it is nearly
> >> impossible to expect that. We do, however, provide industry-leading
> >> support (much better than any of our competitors) and we shoot to fix
> >> known errors / bugs with updated products.
> >>
> >>     I greatly appreciate everyone's valuable feedback, and we will
> >> continue to work on enhancements to everything we offer to maintain
> >> our position as a leader in this market.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
> >> Founder & President
> >> IPexpert, Inc., Proctor Labs, Inc., Masonic e-Institute of
> >> Technology, Inc., & Platinum, Inc.
> >>
> >> Mobile: +1.810.334.1564
> >> eFax: +1.810.454.0130
> >> Email: [email protected]
> >> Connect @ www.WayneLawson.com <http://www.waynelawson.com/>
> >>
> >> :: Message sent from iPhone.
> >>
> >> On May 31, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Lukasz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>  My thought on this...if that idea would be profitable IPx would have
> it.
> >>> My understanding is that the vrack is cheap as petrol in Saudi Arabia
> and
> >>> if you miss your 4 hours then that is your problem. You can imagine
> that if
> >>> the 8 hour slot ends there has to be person (on call) in case the
> router
> >>> does not recover. If you think about it then you know why 4 hour time
> slot
> >>> does not work for IPx. That means they need to use more resources to
> cover
> >>> something which is very cheap and I guess probably not very profitable
> for
> >>> them.
> >>>
> >>> I think question goes to this. If you want to have 4 hour time slot
> >>> would you be able to pay more for vrack? If so how much would you be
> able
> >>> to spend? I prefer to have 8 hours slots for $25 and  maybe waste
> couple of
> >>> hours (unfortunately) because I live in Europe.
> >>>
> >>> Alternatively you can buy 4 switches (around $600) and connect them
> into
> >>> your GNS and never think about time difference again.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Lukasz
> >>>
> >>> On 2012-05-31 19:13, Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> i'm on the same ....
> >>>>
> >>>> need 4 hour slots instead 8hours... because ... when we start as CCIE
> >>>> candidate to practice the labs, we don't had the enough
> >>>> mind strong to start at 8hour lab...
> >>>>
> >>>> another interesting point of view.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Ken Wyan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  When I asked for a fraction of time , sales person told it's not
> >>>>> possible.
> >>>>> My case was I needed about 11 hour time slots. I told xxxxxxx company
> >>>>> provides such facility but IPX told they are training candidates for
> 8
> >>>>> hour
> >>>>> slots & their timeslot period was designed for this purpose.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One support guy was kind enough to give me few hours extension at the
> >>>>> end
> >>>>> of session (if there are enough free racks for next session). I
> >>>>> appreciate
> >>>>> his help.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But other support guy needed one additional voucher even if I ask to
> >>>>> start
> >>>>> my session 2~3 hours before start time. (eventhough this approach can
> >>>>> earn
> >>>>> some extra money from pressurised candidates , in long run it's not
> >>>>> good
> >>>>> for vendor)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (I needed additional hours to check everything very well & findout my
> >>>>> mistakes before the exam ; definitely nobody can spare 16hours
> >>>>> continuously)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is my experience with Proctorlabs
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Rob Pool <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> > Nick,
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I bought my End-to-End solution in Oct 2010 and was told by my
> sales
> >>>>> > person that they were working on a 4 hour time slot at that time.
> So,
> >>>>> your
> >>>>> > argument that it takes time to work on the technical issues doesn't
> >>>>> really
> >>>>> > fly. They've had plenty of time and it's clearly been an imitative
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> > whatever reason they've decided wasn't a priority.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > ______________________________**__
>  >>>>> >  From: Nick Bonifacio <[email protected]>
> >>>>> > To: Jay McMickle <[email protected]>; Rob Pool <
> >>>>> [email protected]>
> >>>>> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "
> >>>>> > [email protected]" <[email protected]>
> >>>>> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:56 AM
> >>>>> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] vrack time slots availability
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > In their defense (Marko and IPX), they are working on it but the
> >>>>> logistics
> >>>>> > are a little tricky.  I don't think you can just flip a switch and
> >>>>> > institute 4 hour blocks.  It will have to be tested, Beta tested
> and
> >>>>> then
> >>>>> > tested again.  You also have to take in account who will get the
> >>>>> short
> >>>>> end
> >>>>> > of the stick.  Since most blocks are based on PST, other time zones
> >>>>> may
> >>>>> > start complaining if a 4 hour block system is implemented.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >  From: Jay McMickle <[email protected]>
> >>>>> > To: Rob Pool <[email protected]>
> >>>>> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "
> >>>>> > [email protected]" <[email protected]>
> >>>>> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:56 AM
> >>>>> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] vrack time slots availability
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Uh oh. I think I hear Marco coming. You are sooooo in trouble!
> >>>>> >  ;)
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Regards,
> >>>>> > Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
> >>>>> > Sent from iJay
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On May 31, 2012, at 6:22 AM, Rob Pool <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > > Nothing against IPX, because they've provided invaluable training
> >>>>> > material. However, they've been talking about 4 hour time slots at
> >>>>> least
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> > couple years and it hasn't happened yet. I went out and bought my
> own
> >>>>> rack
> >>>>> > of gear to the tune of over $11k. Fortunately for those that
> haven't
> >>>>> done
> >>>>> > that yet, the prices have dropped significantly and you could
> >>>>> probably do
> >>>>> > it for less than half of that.  My suggestion is do the same if you
> >>>>> want
> >>>>> > the freedom and flexibility to train when you have time. Also, the
> >>>>> best
> >>>>> way
> >>>>> > to institute change is with your money going somewhere else. A
> >>>>> vendor can
> >>>>> > ignore requests when you're still spending money, but they can't if
> >>>>> > revenues are dropping.
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > > Sent from my
> >>>>> >  iPhone
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > > On May 31, 2012, at 4:43 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > >> Hello IP Experts,
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >> A few weeks if not months ago I asked the same already, whether
> >>>>> there
> >>>>> > will be a chance for booking the vracks for 4hour slots instead of
> >>>>> current
> >>>>> > 8hours. The reasoning why I provided that time and looked like
> there
> >>>>> are
> >>>>> > much more people from this community who are interested in the same
> >>>>> than
> >>>>> > anyone including me could expect.
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >> The response from the IPX instructor that time was that IPX is
> >>>>> thinking
> >>>>> > of implementing 4hour slots but had not definite plan for that. Let
> >>>>> me
> >>>>> > therefore ask you again the same, will you please make the 4hour
> >>>>> vrack
> >>>>> time
> >>>>> > slots available for those who are based in Europe, those who just
> >>>>> need to
> >>>>> > spend labbing time on individual technologies and are not
> interested
> >>>>> yet
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> > practicing the mock
> >>>>> >  labs where 8hour slots are understandable?
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >> Marian Franc
> >>>>> > >>
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