Check the OSPF RFC as well for conditions when an LSA type 3 is
generated.  If the

Reference:
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2328.txt
 12.4.3.  Summary-LSAs


            o   Else, if the next hops associated with this set of paths
                belong to Area A itself, do not generate a summary-LSA
                for the route.[18] This is the logical equivalent of a
                Distance Vector protocol's split horizon logic.

/Jeff

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:21 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks Jeff, that makes sense... Without the sham link, the customer routers
> never even sees the routes coming in from the PE. With the sham link, they
> are advertised from the PE to CE as type 1 or type 2 LSA's, so we can adjust
> the cost of the backdoor path and/or MPLS path to control how traffic is
> routed.
>
> Doug
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] OSPF behavior with MPLS VPN, backdoor
> link, no sham link
> From: Jeff Andiorio <[email protected]>
> Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 10:42 am
> To: Michael Davis - Webquor <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>
> This link does call out the PE will not create a Type3 LSA if Type 1
> is received from the site.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/solutions/Enterprise/WAN_and_MAN/L3VPNCon.html
>
> Jeff
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Michael Davis - Webquor
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Thanks Doug that seems to make sense. I will give your gns3 topology a go
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 15/11/2012, at 11:36 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, I mean the OSPF routes (originating from the remote customer
>>> site, advertised across the back-door link to the local CE, and then
>>> advertised to the local PE) have an AD of 110, while the BGP routes
>>> (advertised via OSPF from the remote site CE to the the remote PE, then
>>> redistributed into BGP and advertised to the local PE) have an AD of
>>> 200. So the PE selects the OSPF routes to insert into the VRF routing
>>> table, and the BGP routes never get re-distributed.
>>>
>>> Here's a link to the GNS3 topology I'm using for this. Have a quick
>>> look, it will make much more sense than my rambling on...
>>> http://gns3vault.com/MPLS/advanced-mpls-vpn.html
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] OSPF behavior with MPLS VPN, backdoor
>>> link, no sham link
>>> From: Steve Storniak <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Thu, November 15, 2012 7:23 am
>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
>>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> Did you mean local CE routes (internal) have high priority over BGP
>>> routes(external) per ospf route selection process?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>;
>>> To: <[email protected]>;
>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] OSPF behavior with MPLS VPN, backdoor
>>> link, no sham link
>>> Sent: Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:05:13 AM
>>>
>>> Specifying the both external and internal types when re-distributing
>>> into MP-BGP doesn't seem to make a difference. Since they are all
>>> internal routes, the distribution works without specifying the route
>>> types, as evidenced by the Type 3 LSA's and O IA routes showing up when
>>> I shut down the back-door link.
>>>
>>> But I think I have the answer... Here's an excerpt from "sh ip bgp vpnv4
>>> vrf MELON" from the PE router that connects to one customer site, let's
>>> call it "Customer Site A". This was taken while the back-door link was
>>> up:
>>>
>>> *> 12.12.12.12/32 192.168.23.2 111 32768 ?
>>> * i 5.5.5.5 11 100 0 ?
>>>
>>> And here an excerpt from "show ip route vrf MELON" for the same route:
>>>
>>> O 12.12.12.12 [110/111] via 192.168.23.2, 00:00:04, Ethernet0/3
>>> 13.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
>>>
>>> 192.168.23.2 is the CE router at "Customer Site A", while 5.5.5.5 is the
>>> PE router loopback that connects to "Customer Site B" and 12.12.12.12 is
>>> the loopback of the CE router at "Customer Site B".
>>>
>>> Only active routes, present in the VRF's routing table, are
>>> re-distributed. Since the OSPF routes from the local CE have a lower AD
>>> than the BGP routes from the other site, the OSPF routes are active in
>>> the VRF's routing table, not the BGP routes. So the BGP routes from the
>>> other site coming across the MPLS VPN never get redistributed into OSPF,
>>> so the LSA's don't get created.
>>>
>>> Does this sound correct?
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] OSPF behavior with MPLS VPN, backdoor
>>> link, no sham link
>>> From: Greg Chisholm <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, November 14, 2012 8:21 pm
>>> To: [email protected]
>>>
>>> On 11/14/2012 05:12 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> I'm working on a sham link lab, and came across some behavior I don't
>>>> understand. I've got the MPLS L3VPN built, and routes are being learned
>>>> across it properly. Everything is in area 0, and I've used the same
>>>> process ID for the vrf on both PE's. I do not have the sham link
>>>> configured yet, so all traffic is going over the back-door link.
>>>>
>>>> The thing I don't understand is that there are no Type3 LSA's anywhere,
>>>> not on the CE routers, nor on the PE vrf's. I only see type 1 and Type 2
>>>> LSA's. If I shut down the back-door link, the Type 3's show up, along
>>>> with the O IA routes as expected.
>>>>
>>>> I would think that while the back-door is up, we would see the Type 2
>>>> LSA's coming across the back-door link, as well as the Type 3 LSA's
>>>> being redistributed from MP-BGP.
>>>>
>>>> What am I missing?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Doug
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>>>
>>> Look at your redistribution in BGP, you need to specify the types of
>>> OSPF routes with redistribute ospf
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